Hi! In thinking about how to help the fediverse grow, I wonder if there are more mainstream Lemmy instances?

I’ve pointed a couple folks to Lemmy.world and it’s uhhh, pretty hard Left for them (as one girl, who volunteered for the Democrats said “I just got yelled at because I can’t be Left wing unless I want to destroy capitalism? Which feels weird.”) We’re much farther Left than reddit which itself was definitely Left of centre…

I don’t know if decentralized open source social media actually attracts many mainstreamers but assuming we want to grow the fediverse, I’d like to have somewhere I can point people to without feeling very nervous for them.

Thanks!

  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
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    1 day ago

    Honestly liberals probably fit into lemmy fine. I’ve seen my fair share.

    But your view of “normie” is heavily american centric. Your normies are probably far right in much of the world.

    • the_swagmaster@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      22 hours ago

      I think it’s unfair to just assume they are far right cause they are American. Right wing? Sure. More likely to be far right? Also sure. This doesn’t mean we should not welcome them and then try to show them that their specific view points are unfounded (or maybe ours are, there’s the point of discussion). Not just assume they are Nazis when they just ask why people here seem different to them

      • leftzero@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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        21 hours ago

        I was at a shitty crustpunk bar once getting an after-work beer. One of those shitholes where the bartenders clearly hate you. So the bartender and I were ignoring one another when someone sits next to me and he immediately says, “no. get out.”

        And the dude next to me says, “hey i’m not doing anything, i’m a paying customer.” and the bartender reaches under the counter for a bat or something and says, “out. now.” and the dude leaves, kind of yelling. And he was dressed in a punk uniform, I noticed

        Anyway, I asked what that was about and the bartender was like, “you didn’t see his vest but it was all nazi shit. Iron crosses and stuff. You get to recognize them.”

        And i was like, ohok and he continues.

        "you have to nip it in the bud immediately. These guys come in and it’s always a nice, polite one. And you serve them because you don’t want to cause a scene. And then they become a regular and after awhile they bring a friend. And that dude is cool too.

        And then THEY bring friends and the friends bring friends and they stop being cool and then you realize, oh shit, this is a Nazi bar now. And it’s too late because they’re entrenched and if you try to kick them out, they cause a PROBLEM. So you have to shut them down.

        And i was like, ‘oh damn.’ and he said “yeah, you have to ignore their reasonable arguments because their end goal is to be terrible, awful people.”

        And then he went back to ignoring me. But I haven’t forgotten that at all.

        — @IamRageSparkle, 2020, on the microblogging site that later let the fascists in.

        Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance.

        If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.

        We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.

        — Karl Popper, 1945

        • nekbardrun@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          17 hours ago

          A good anime weeby analogy is that nazis are like the demons from Frieren.

          They only learnt to speak the polite words so they can easily lie to us and kill us.

        • knexcar@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          17 hours ago

          Yes but this is Lemmy, where anyone who doesn’t think Capitalism = bad and billionaires should be shot is a nazi. Some people don’t want to think about politics all the time, especially when it’s so extreme (no I don’t believe half of American voters are nazis). I know the obsession with Elon’s salute made me avoid Lemmy and go back to my niche subreddits until I got bored of them.

        • the_swagmaster@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          19 hours ago

          No tolerance however ends up at the same point.

          It’s not like we know this person has Nazi tattoos or even what their views are. Maybe they literally just asked a question. If they do have Nazi tattoos, they can fuck off. If they think anyone who doesn’t identify as strait is a bad person, they can fuck off. If they believe the q-anon conspiracys without question, they can fuck off.

          But untill we talk to someone (assuming they are not visibly showing their extreme views like in your bar tender example) it literally doesn’t make sense to judge people based on the information OP has provided. If more information comes out, I am open to changing my opinion, but for now I think you are being intolerant of people joining this platform simply because they ask for something that is not as left wing.

      • C126@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        1 day ago

        Authoritarian is up on the poltical compass, not right, although its often left since it often requires a powerful state.