• BilboBargains@lemmy.world
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            The judicial system in America is obviously not about what is written in their legal statutes or the veracity of the evidence presented. Otherwise war criminals, fraudsters and rapists like Bush, Cheney, Trump and Clinton would be in prison. It is about advancing an agenda for a white male US hegemony and that explains most of the outcomes, e.g. black people being enslaved in prison. Ulbricht thumbed his nose at the establishment and they got pissy. Assange and Snowden revealed their crimes and they hunted them to the ends of the earth. The CIA and their stooges, the Swedes fabricated a rape allegation against Assange that was quietly dismissed, unfulfilled, seven years later. This establishment will stop at nothing to assert their authority and you wonder about evidence in the Ulbricht case?

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              No I don’t wonder because again that evidence was used to convict the DEA agents that stole from Silk Road. You are linking a bunch of things that have nothing to do with each other. The pattern you are seeing is an illusion

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        it was to kill competition who were threatening to kill him. id say if the law won’t protect you, you are free to protect yourself

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          Edit: I wrote a whole comment about this and the corrupt DEA agents involved in pushing him into a murder-for-hire scheme who were also working as moderators for the Silk Road, and later went to prison for crimes surrounding the ordeal.

          But I decided against it, because the fact remains that it is likely he did attempt to have people killed. It was due to threats of exposing him, not threats on his life. And the fact is that him likely being entrapped is a good legal defense but not a good moral one.

          If we ignore everything involving the possible contract murder deals, I say that his release is wonderful. Considering he was never convicted of any of the murder for hire stuff, his sentence was draconian, and marked a real shift in the freedom of the internet. As to Trump, even a broken clock is right twice every 78 years.

          But this release is not so sweet knowing what Ross may have and likely tried to do in order to hang onto his crumbling empire.

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              I really don’t know, but I doubt they would. It’s possible for the original 5 instances he was accused of, as he was never tried but the district court conceded he probably did it.

              The 6th, later and more famous instance? Probably not. He was actually indicted for that in Maryland, but it was a weak case that was dropped once he was convicted of his other drug and financial crimes. In the later incident, the hitman who he purportedly hired was Carl Force; the corrupt DEA agent. At best, Force’s action constituted entrapment. At worst, the whole story is unreliable. Either way, I can’t see any government agency thrilled about dragging the details of that situation out of obscurity.

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    I didn’t even notice that this happened:

    Today, President Biden granted Leonard Peltier executive clemency and commuted the remainder of his sentence.

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      commuted the remainder of his sentence.

      Commuted it to home fucking arrest, not even full clemancy.

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    Wow, holy fuck, I never thought it’d happen. Even a broken clock is right twice a day I guess.

    This dude is about to have a very lucrative career.

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      You’re saying it’s the right move to release a man convicted of (I believe) several counts of attempted murder?

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                We don’t actually know as those charges were dropped. In this country you’re innocent until proven guilty, therefore he’s innocent.

                I’m not making any statements on his personality or character, just that he’s not guilty.

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                  Absolutely, he is legally innocent of this, as the charges were indeed dropped.

                  However, it’s all publicly documented. You can read the DMs where all of this occurred if you’d like. It includes the transaction IDs and wallets this all occurred. The paper trail is all there. This happened, whether legally recognized or not. I do completely agree with you that he is legally innocent, but the evidence that this happened is overwhelming.

                  The reason he wasn’t found guilty of this specifically is because the prosecution, in the case in which he was found guilty, didn’t even include this in his charges, but instead used it as an example of his character in relation to the charges he did receive. Considering there was no actual murder that took place, they probably felt they had significantly better odds with other charges that they could easily get a guilty verdict (and significant sentence) with. This isn’t uncommon procedure.

                  Meanwhile, the Maryland case in which he was being charged in relation to this, was dropped once he’d already been found guilty in NY and sentenced to two life sentences. We we’ll never know the final verdict because it never happened.

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      Someone should really convince him to legalise all drugs to stick it to the cartels.

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    Didn’t Donald the Jester say something about fighting crime before the election? And then he drops thousands of hard criminals back on the street?

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    I remember this guy being a fucking idiot that paid for several fake assassinations of fake rivals. It was pretty funny.

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      It is funny in hindsight, knowing the assassinations were a scam. But he thought they were real, he talked in great detail about them and payed for them. This is missing from the article, I believe it was part of his indictment.

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        Oh yeah, he’s a piece of shit for sure. I just think it’s funny that he’s also a moron. What kind of drug lord gets a message saying “Hey, I heard of a guy who wants to take you down, wire me a cool mil and I’ll kill him for you, k?” and just… sends the money? More than once?! He definitely tried to rescue an overthrown Nigerian prince as a kid.

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              Honestly, the only reason he’s famous at all is because the Silk Road was used to drum up shock by the media, so the government used him as an example to those who would make them look bad. Otherwise, he would have faded into obscurity like every other idiot criminal who stumbled into short term riches.

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            Don’t forget, he was caught because he posted his email in a public forum while advertising the Silk Road

            Even better, he asked a question on StackOverflow lol

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          Yeah, when I watched a synopsis of the story, multiple alarm bells rang in my head midway through watching it. He’s so gullible for how rich he fucking was

          So the twist that was that they were all the same person, didn’t even surprise me, you could see that it was a scam a mile away if you were paying attention

          The scammer was pretty good, though, I will give them that. Too bad the scammer was also pretty dumb about how the handle the money after the fact, and got caught lmao.

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    Imagine having millions of dollars worth of bitcoin in 2013 and then being imprisoned until 2024.

    I hope he made a food backup of at least a few thousand coins.

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      His coins were all seized by the government. Or what was left of them. You see, Ross was not a very smart person, and what he didn’t give to fake hitmen to knock off people he didn’t like, got pillaged by hackers because he wasn’t a programmer and the Silk Road was held together with spit and a whole lot of optimism. He got caught because he posted his personal email in a public forum while advertising the Silk Road, and his email address contained his real name.

      He’s an absolute idiot, and half the people in this thread could have run the site better than him.

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        You’re making assumptions.

        Also, he wasn’t an idiot. He just didn’t have any prior experience or training as a Dev or in opsec.

        Glen geeenwald is not an idiot and he was just as ignorant when Snowden tried to contact him.

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          Listen, if you think being the admin of a darknet drug marketplace and using your real name in public forums doesn’t make you an idiot, then you’re an idiot too.

          Also, Glen Greenwald is absolutely an idiot.

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          I feel like if you’re running an online black market, step number one is not using your real name or regular email (it was gmail, no less, so hello NSA). I’m not opsec, that’s just insanely dumb.

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    This was one of the biggest requests of the Libertarian Party and Trump followed through with it. Could you imagine the Democratic Party agreeing to any demand from the Green Party in an attempt to get votes?