Google literally giving me sex talk lines.
Something something if you’re not paying for it then you are the product
I’m not paying for firefox though…
That’s not an exception. Librewolf is.
Are you paying for Librewolf? I’m not sure what you meant to say.
He means with Firefox, you’re still the product.
But no
Eh, by default FF has a bunch of telemetry enabled. Nowhere near as bad as the others, but Librewolf has that all disabled out of the box.
Surely the telemetry only consists of stuff that they use to give back to the community? Usage data to drive innovation?
I might be naive, but that’s how I imagine it.
Selling usage data to google. Yeah. Definately.
As per Librewolf it’s not business product.
Free is not at no cost but rather Free as in Freedom. Production may but paid for but request or donation but it is even then still not a business product. It is not a capitalist product. Free is Freedom truly in this sense even though production may cost money in this capitalist tyrrany. Cost is, again, by choice, pursuit/desire of particularity by a nonprogrammer, or donation.
Surely Mozilla was built like that but google bought it is in a certainly assassination objective. No doubt. That’s the whole fucking point of this thread’s post and observation. Y’all fucking quick about it.
It’s a stupid saying popular with self righteous people.
I like K-9 (soon to be Thunderbird)
Change to protonmail and move away from google altogether.
Absolutely proprietary!
Or Fastmail
Exactly, I don’t trust a free email service 😂
Or maybe choose something that isn’t such a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Which are you claiming to be the wolf? It was just a little bit ambiguous for me.
Proton Mail is not a service that can be trusted and it is fairly expensive
Why can’t it be trusted? Can any service be trusted? I’m not going to host my own email service. 💀
They promote proprietary software in the form of JavaScript and they claim encryption and 100% privacy for a protocol that isn’t secure or designed to be secure.
Yeah, they have more than five users, they must be hiding something. It’s only logical.
I’m slowly beginning the process of moving to Proton Mail. Staying with the free account for now, but really want to get away from Gmail.
Same, for this reason.
That’s an email client. Do you have a email provider you like that is compatible with it?
Gmail works with it.
But Gmail could technically pump the same ads over IMAP if they wanted to.
Technically it’s not the same, in case of IMAP they would need to literally put spam mails into your account. As opposed to having visual elements in the UI that pretend to be an email. Might not feel like a big difference but actively poisoning the users inbox is pretty bad.
Yeah, while technically possible, I don’t see that happening for the exact reason you said. 👍
Mailbox.org is pretty nice, I’ve been using it since a few months now, because it’s compatible with basically all email clients (unlike protonmail) and they have a very cheap plan too.
Using it for almost 3 years now, it’s great. Together with K9-Mail ofc!
Thanks for sharing, I am seriously considering it. I just have a hard time justifying the purchase to myself. I kinda worry that I am just acting on a somewhat emotional fear of being watched.
User an ad blocker like everybody else
Suggestion for iOS?
Use private dns on your wifi settings and input dns.adguard.com into the dns setting. Sometimes this can cause connection problems tho. It’s a bit hard overall to block stuff on iOS, too strict of an OS
pretty sure that’s the official app
https://blokada.org/ Give it a go.
Okay, but the rest of these emails also look like advertising spam…
Fair, it’s been a long while since I’ve unsubscribed from the spam I get. I mostly ignore it.
Mostly ignore it
Gotta gamble sometimes since the odds that there are truly milfs in the area is never 0.
this should be more than mildly infuriating to you.
You might want to ditch google for something like proton if you can, and if you can’t use Thunderbird to view your emails.
the ads only appear in the “Promotions/Ads” tab, which is an email category for junk and ads. (ones that don’t include any useful information but come from legitimate companies and don’t qualify for the “Spam” tab)
It CAN be disabled (together with the whole sorting feature, which is spyware anyway (enabling it automatically grants google permission to look at your emails))
and also i think the decision to add their own ads there is actually pretty clever lol.Yep, and so you know there’s a lot to complain about if Google, that decision is not one of them .
It would be clever if they fit and I might actually click on them.
Honestly, I did the whole “inbox filter tabs” thing a long time ago, and it was real useful before when I had a few spammy, usually “news letter” or “promotion” email that I might use. But at this point it’s just where the email I don’t really want but don’t want to deal with go to die.
I appreciate the info, though, and I’ve already turned it off, but I might just turn it back on because idgaf about the ads really since I barely look at that tab/section of my mail anyway. At his point, I’m prolly just going to go to proton mail for now and just update my email with my important contacts. I’ve been trying to get away from Google for a while, I just haven’t had the time to complete the transition on all services.
What alternative(s) to gmail you’d recommend?
I definitely need to make that switch, and I’ve been “in the process” of making the switch for a while.
I will take your advice about Thunderbird because my work email is gmail only.
thunderbird should connect to gmail too :)
Spark for Android. EMclient for desktop. Both have combined inboxes.
Maybe using a free email account offered by an ad company wasn’t such a good idea after all.
I’ve used Gmail since 2005 and don’t ever remember seeing ads, but then again I use ad blockers on pretty much all my devices.
I was able to see ads but I had to look for it. I can see them if I enable the promotions section and the look in the promotions section.
So the ads are in the section labeled “ads”, who would have thought! (not being snide with you, just that’s where they should be haha)
give it a few years and you’ll be seeing only ads and maybe an occasional email.
2000 or so for me. I have no idea how people are seeing ads in their inbox.
I have seen it on the gmail app only so far.
And not in the main mail box but in subfolders.yeah it’s only in the subfolders which are bullshit anyways so it’s no surprise longtime users opted out of that as soon as it came along
The public beta started in like 04 or 05 IIRC, I got my Gmail account my freshman year of college. I guess you were one of the cool people that got in on the closed beta.
Literally everyone on Lemmy is 38 years old
*Quietly* I am not :(
I was just informed that I’m actually 37…
Can confirm. Am exactly 38 years old…
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Just hit 38.0027
It’s all downhill from here
Happy birthday!
Hey! I’m 37!
Also 04 was still the closed beta I think. Just not super closes. Got an invite from my friend back then
You can disable this…
Yep, I just looked it up and did that! Thanks!
How, I just looked through the settings in the app and couldn’t see where?
I had to do it for the wife after I noticed she had them too. I have never seen it in any of my personal Gmail accounts.
Google knows what you like and these days they will take any ad because they fired all the screening staff. My ads are usually pretty average since I opt out of everything I possibly can opt out of and I use Startpage for search, so they aren’t as targeted. That’s one positive thing about Google. They started as a relatively ethical company for an ad company, so there’s a lot of code and best practices in place for opting out of things. That is fading, but it’s way better than others. Like Facebook showing ads for things I searched for a few seconds ago on Amazon and stuff like that.
Amazon sharing data with Facebook? I kinda doubt that.
Facebook has crawlers that follow you around the web. It’s not that Amazon is sharing info, it’s that Facebook is tracking your browsing history (if you let it).
I don’t see anyone else here recommending K-9 Mail for Android, and I think that’s sad because it’s really good. Open source, supports viewing message headers, multi-account, hides remote images by default to prevent tracking…
Like youtube giving me ad’s for programs basically flat out saying ‘use our app to make porn of your friends’
Use a different email client. I use Samsung Email, but that’s (of course) only on Samsung.
A good FOSS client would be Fair email though.
Fairmail is good. My issue with it is that the F-Froid version did not work with my provider, so I’ve been using k-9 mail instead.
It’s also foss, and the F-Droid version works with my provider. It’s really nice and fully featured.
FairyMail? Sounds interesting
I mean…they know what you like it seems
Interestingly enough, no. I do like anime, though, so maybe they made that assumption.
If OP has personalized ads even ebaled.
The times I turned off personalized ads, were the times google ads went really wild. This was both for regular website ads as well as youtube ads. So many cosmetic product ads…
I had to turn it back on again because they were at least partly interesting compared to “SiCk oF aCnE?! sIcK of pImPleS??!”
Yeah, I have turned off personalized ads and I mostly get these inappropriate dating ads. I guess it’s their way of annoying me into enabling personalization.
just use uBlock Origin. It’s that easy.
That… doesn’t work in the Gmail app. I have it installed on both desktop and mobile Firefox though. ✌️
k-9 is a mozilla project now. thunderbird always has been.
Do you get the super creepy ‘easten European girls are popular because of their traditional values…’ and the I’ve that’s ‘Chinese women want to come and study in but need loving middle aged men to have sex with them while they’re here…’ I’m paraphraseing of course but that’s basically what they say.
Makes me laugh when everything is sanitized because advertiser’s don’t want to appear next to anything untoward then the adverts are for human traffickers.
Though honestly the ‘student was expelled for inventing a more efficient heater’ advert is possibly worse, of course he was expelled he broke the laws of physics, he should have been arrested! Why is such an obvious scam allowed but a friendly Australian can’t call his cobba a cunt?
You guys get ads?
If I chose to.
laughs in tuta
nota.
you seeing this @Tutanota@mastodon.social?That’s payable for better function from data and storage. Respect is the product.
Looks like someone fat fingered while cropping. It happens to everyone.
