I recently made an account on Beehaw because I’ve been having pleasant interactions with the instance from my lemm.ee account. Some good threads, seemed like a progressive space. So I went back to the philosophy documents and read them again, liked most of what I saw (again) and signed up for an account today. Decided to break in my new account by browsing the top posts of the last month. Several of them were threads I recognised and had commented in, and felt like revisiting. Except my comments weren’t there. When I got to a comment I very specifically remember replying to (someone asked what’s up with HBomber and James Somerton), and couldn’t find my comment, I decided to check the modlog.

I’m banned. I’ve been talking into an empty void for 4 months. I was banned for being in bad faith. And one of my comments was removed by an admin, because I told people to assume good faith and apparently that’s not nice.

This doesn’t align at all with the documents I’ve been reading today. The ones about assuming good faith, and about giving people chances to clarify, and about how banning is a last resort only for obvious trolls. When I came to this community 4 months ago to make a post about fediverse drama, I wasn’t interested in active participation in the community, and I didn’t make that post with that in mind. I understand how that might not fit the desires of the community here. But I didn’t make that post in bad faith. I, and whoever wrote those pages on the philosophy of Beehaw, wanted the same thing back then. To create a corner of the internet free of hate speech and full of kindness. Now? I’m jaded and beaten. I don’t want to create a kind community anymore, I want to find one. I’ve given up on that ambition. So that’s why I reread the updated documents with hope. Why I created an account. And why I want to know whether beehaw.org is actually the website I read about in those documents. Because those modlogs say the opposite of what those documents said. If I don’t fit in here, if the ideals I thought I saw aren’t present, I’d like to find out quickly.

Should I still hope?

  • DroneRights@beehaw.orgOP
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    A comparison would be impossible, because there are no standard practices for gender affirmation psychological therapy. Magick wins by virtue of the fact that therapy is not participating. This is like asking whether there’s any research papers demonstrating that an eagle can fly faster than a dog. Dogs can’t fly. You don’t need to be told that eagles fly better than dogs, it’s obvious. Likewise, there is no scientific merit in conducting an investigation on whether gender affirmation magick (which exists) is better than gender affirmation psychotherapy (which doesn’t exist).

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      9 months ago

      So because one thing doesn’t exist, it means all possible other things are valid and don’t need any evidence?

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        9 months ago

        knokelmaat asked if gender magick is more powerful than gender therapy. We’re not asking whether gender magick is valid, that’s already been conclusively demonstrated. We’re asking which is more powerful. The clear answer is: the one that exists.

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          9 months ago

          We’re not asking whether gender magick is valid, that’s already been conclusively demonstrated

          That’s exactly the evidence that they were asking for. So I’m sure you have no problem sharing it

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            9 months ago

            based on your reply upthread i am immediately putting a stop to this because i absolutely do not think you are asking this in any sort of good faith.

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              9 months ago

              Asking for evidence for something that’s been “conclusively demonstrated” is in bad faith?

              Arguing that magic is better than psychology and then being upset at being questioned is what’s bad faith