• SoftTeeth@lemmy.world
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      The rich are trying to pivot the Trump vicory into world domination before we can organize and dethrone the oligarchy.

      Google/Meta helping to spread misinformation is a big part of that.

      I wish I was kidding.

      Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

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          Honestly, the most humane and least distasteful solution is to dispossess the billionaires of their billions. Not a drop of their blood need to be shed, should this be done.

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            Too bad the billionaires just bought the government of the United States

            Let me know when you figure out how to peacefully redistribute the wealth of people who want to rule the world

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        The evidence so far is that the primary response of the heinously rich when they fear for their lives is to spend more or much more on their security and their politicians rather than to change their evil greedy behavior at all. Those looking for any real solution to oligarchs need to consider this fact when evaluating what should be done.

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    Google has told the EU that it will not comply with a forthcoming fact-checking law.

    Perfect time to implement sky-high fines for non-compliance.

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      Ah, but that’s why US Big Tech is splooshing cash all over President Felon and hoping he saves them from evil communist European consumer protections.

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        Yep, they’re hoping Trump will pressure the EU to get rid of their pesky consumer protections. They don’t even make any profits for billionaires!

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            I mean Putin’s weaselly little far right lackeys are scarily close to being in government in a few European countries now (or already are, Hungary and Slovakia). So who knows

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        I hope we could disconnect the cables tbh.

        Just imagine a yankless internet. How glorious it would be

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    Google is basically saying the EU couldn’t do its own subpar search and they’re not brave enough to try.

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    I want to live in a world where the EU bans Google, but we all know the EU will just roll over and accept this.

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      France has a tech sector?

      Aesthetically I like reading technical texts in French.

      (Contrary to the stereotype, romantic texts not so much, that’s where English is better ; and despite trying my best, I still haven’t found a way to like Dutch ; neutral on German.)

      But the point is - has anything big lifted off in France in the last 20 years or so?

      I’m not talking about quite a few particular people whose names should be in history books. I’m talking about companies and systems.

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          In its early days, Qwant heavily relied on Bing’s API to provide search results. […]

          Qwant began transitioning to its own indexing system in February 2013, but this process was gradual. The company started using its own engine for indexing social media accounts and the “shopping” part of search results, […]

          Today, Qwant’s search results are a mix of its own indexed content and results pulled from Bing.

          https://thedroidguy.com/does-qwant-search-use-bing-search-results-ultimate-guide-1265864

          I was curious if it relied on Bing, as most 3rd party search engines do. Which seems to be the case.

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        There is a french tech sector: Doctolib, BlaBlaCar, and a few other original ideas have opened new types of services and taken their hold over Europe. Yet, those services cannot be adapted to individualistic north America.

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          OK, TIL. As someone in Russia, I wouldn’t know.

          I don’t think “individualistic” is a bad thing or prevents those from working there. Maybe you meant “atomized society”, but US is not the worst country in that regard, that would be the one I live in.

          A modern and more global take on Minitel would be cool.

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    I wonder how it will work and how can be enforced. Weekly I can easily find non fact checked article on “respectable” newspaper.

    If its the newspaper themselves that prioritize click baiting over fact checking, I don’t know how can we ask Google or meta to fact check their userbase

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    I get the sentiment, who doesn’t want to dunk on Google?

    But the headline is needlessly inflammatory. There is no law yet; and google essentially is saying please please don’t implement it, it totally doesn’t make sense.

    Don’t get me wrong, the EU should still implement it. And once it is law; Google will also comply.

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    I hate community notes, it’s a cost free way of fact checking with no accountability.

    I also hate these big international tech companies. Forget too big to fail, these are too big to change. We are all techno peasants and they are our tech lords

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      I hate community notes, it’s a cost free way of fact checking with no accountability.

      I don’t think it’s necessarily bad, but it can be harmful if done on a platform that has a significant skew in its political leanings, because it can then lead to the assumption that posts must be true because they were “fact checked” even if the fact check was actually just one of the 9:1 ratio of users that already believes that one thing.

      However, on platforms that have more general, less biased overall userbases, such as YouTube, a community notes system can be helpful, because it directly changes the platform incentives and design.

      I like to come at this from the understanding that the way a platform is designed influences how it is used and perceived by users. When you add a like button but not a dislike button, you only incentivize positive fleeting interactions with posts, while relegating stronger negative opinions to the comments, for instance. (see: Twitter)

      If a platform integrates community notes, that not only elevates content that had any effort at all made to fact check it (as opposed to none at all) but it also means that, to get a community note, somebody must at least attempt to verify the truth. And if someone does that, then statistically speaking, there’s at least a slightly higher likelihood that the truth is made apparent in that community note than if none existed to incentivize someone to fact check in the first place.

      Again, this doesn’t work in all scenarios, nor is it always a good decision to add depending on a platform’s current design and general demographic political leanings, but I do think it can be valuable in some cases. (This also heavily depends on who is allowed access to create the community notes, of course)

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        I get what you’re trying to say, they can incentivise accuracy and they do at least prompt people to be more accurate lest the community holds them to account. But what i don’t like is that there is no standard that the notes are held to and there is no accountability if either the original post or the community note are wrong.

        I also don’t like that the social media publishers are pushing the fact checkers onto the community to be done for free, but at the end of the day they own the community note and can delete it if they don’t like it. We are doing their work for them and taking accountability away from them

    • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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      i think you wanted to write: fuck america. fuck off americans.

      thats much shorter and in the realm of language the imbeciles might be able to understand.

      “death to america” should also work.

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      Ironically, for authoritarian communist countries that recorded high rate of newly minted billionaires in the past five years, China and Vietnam are doing something right cracking down on billionaires.

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        Very fair, the persecution of Jack Ma was very interesting. Haven’t heard of what happened in Vietnam though?

        You shouldn’t need to be authoritarian to crack down on these systems though. I really liked what I saw Lena Khan doing in the US, what Brazil did to twitter or what Julie Inman Grant did here in Australia

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          There is a Vietnamese billionaire who is found guilty of scamming her victims. The court ordered her to pay what she stole within a deadline or else she will face execution. I don’t remember if she is ordered to pay either only a portion or all of what she scammed.

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      I hate community notes, it’s a cost free way of fact checking with no accountability

      And it lets certain communities brigade the notes with misinformation/disinformation to try and control the narrative.

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      These companies are built on extracting content out of people anyway. They get paid because users get sold shit they don’t need while users are the ones providing the content.

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        Lawsuits. As it stands the US supreme court is had said that social media companies can not be held liable for the things their users publish. Fact checking companies can be sued, news companies can be sued (see fox news and the voting machines lawsuit), Facebook can’t be held responsible in the same way

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    God I hope this happens, it will be absolutely hilarious when the gcp services on which the EU infraestructure for telecommunications, research and development, industry, transportation, banking, agriculture, logistics and health is built up, crashes burning to the ground.