American Police Version of: Mental health issue solved quickly and permanently.
For some reason the police just love to murder suicidal people. I think that the brain of a conservative short circuits at the thought of it, then the monkey rage comes out.
I don’t understand the relationship between suicide and conservatives. Can you explain?
Assuming that your question was genuine (the downvoters probably assume you’re a troll), I am just philosophizing. A lot of conservatives have a complete lack of empathy for other people and will often become angry at seeing people who present as “weak”. It’s the way that bullies work–they look for the vulnerable people and target in on them for harassment. I am convinced that conservatives can’t handle the concept of suicide. They have spent their lives not really introspecting and so never have the capacity to feel that way. I feel that they react emotionally and violently to the thought, which is what leads to so many police officers simply shooting and killing people who wanted to commit suicide.
Google it, you’ll find 5-10 or so articles about this EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
Who cares it’s not like it was a Fetus!
Can we give them the benefit of the doubt, please? They probably thought the child was a dog or a partner of theirs… \ACAB
“The Columbus Police Department was conducting a welfare check on a subject following a report of potential self-harm,” Nebraska State Patrol said in a press release.
“Mission Accomplished”
Self - ❌
Harm - ✅
This is why conservatives shouldn’t have guns or authority of any kind.
The awfulness of the story aside, I do want to put a small bit of appreciation toward ABC News for not dropping some bullshit like “17-year-old man dead following an officer-involved shooting during a welfare check.” The voice is passive still, but at least it cuts to the point, that the kid was killed by a police officer.
My only notes are that it should say “Officer shot and killed 17-year-old while conducting a welfare check.” As it is, it’s like it’s saying the kid was shot and killed, and it just so happened to be by an officer.
My only notes are that it should say “Officer shot and killed 17-year-old while conducting a welfare check.”
I think the news would have to put allegedly in there somewhere.
No ‘allegedly’ required in the passive version, so not required in the active version
‘Allegedly’ is not required because they are quoting the state police:
A teenager was shot and killed by a police officer responding to a residence in Nebraska to conduct a welfare check, state police said.
Oh boy, this post ain’t gonna be popular. Humor me and read it all.
First off, there’s no meat on the bone here. Police called on a young man threatening self-harm, young man killed. Nothing to see here ATM.
Did the kid have a gun? Did he threaten the cops? WTF happened?! Nothing in this story addresses the simplest questions. Hell, it didn’t ask questions, let alone get answers. FFS, this is Journalism 101. (I literally took that class, and more.)
Here’s the question we should all be asking: Why are police the default mental health responders in America? We can all give a dozen reasons why that’s bullshit, but that’s not interesting. How do we actually make change? Read on.
“Defund the police” is the dumbest political slogan I’ve ever heard. Jesus. I know what’s meant. You know what’s meant. Worst. Marketing. Ever.
Had an opinion changing YouTube binge last night. Watched a dozen sov cits getting their asses handed to them in court. That evolved into watching cops bust idiots running around impersonating police officers.
In both cases I was stunned at the calm and measured responses from the judges and cops involved. Over and over and over again. The patience on display was stunning. Me? LOL, I’d throw these asses in jail or beat them down with a billy club. Been on the receiving end of bad judges and cops. As bad as you think it is now, didn’t used to be like that!
And why is it so much better today? We got public CAMERAS. I can usually argue both sides of an argument, if you can’t, you don’t understand the argument. I got nothing arguing cops shouldn’t be wearing body cams.
Of course you don’t release the footage immediately to the public! Of course you don’t live stream that shit! And yes, there’s a technical\budgetary cost well above buying a fat HDD.
Still. recording is plenty doable. Go to your local sheriff’s FB page and ask why they’re not using body cams. Demand answers. LOL, I got no answers from mine. But press them anyway and do not stop!
First of all, it’s an active investigation involving a minor. It’s likely that information won’t be provided even if you ask.
Secondly, for someone who took journalism, you don’t seem to understand something called research. If you did any sort of research, you would understand that defund the police was a reallocation of funds away from the police to things like mental health professionals instead of decommissioned M16s.
You should stop watching YouTube for your
propagandacontent. There are other countries in this world that do use police for wellness checks but the USA is the number one for killings during those checks.They were saying they understood and agreed with the tenets of “defund the police” but thought that phrase was terrible marketing. It’s an easy target for the opposition to sway anyone in the middle, because it sounds like getting rid of police entirely.
Some of the proposals made were to get rid of police entirely and instead create an entirely new organization.
Gotta source for that
That’s not a source. I’m not doing your homework.
So you want me to link each relevant source already compiled on the page that also includes some context directly?
I would actually agree with a total abolishing the current militarized policing system. Call it what you want, but we need to revamp our entire system. Reallocate funds and build out a comprehensive system that focuses on helping people and not killing people.
If you did any sort of research, you would understand that defund the police was a reallocation of funds away from the police to things like mental health professionals instead of decommissioned M16s.
Ah, just like KAM is not all men, “Dead men can’t rape” is a fair and kind slogan, and “Believe all women” is a great campaign because women are naturally, immune to greed and would never use rape accusations as leverage or a punishing tool.
There are bad cops, and sadly they are far too many, that is a fact I won’t even try to deny, but reactionary comments like this are similar to a person killing another on self defense, but the deceased was gay, so the self defense argument is ignored, and the killer is charged with murder, aggravated with a hate crime.
While I generally agree with the need to ask those questions, you’re starting with the presumption that everything was handled appropriately and the onus is on the observers to question it. Maybe that’s even true in the majority of cases.
However that is NOT the expected outcome for that type of call. A lot of us will start with the assumption that a welfare check should not end in someone dead. The onus is on the responders to explain why this is different, and the onus is on all of us to improve the system if the responder had inappropriate skills and actions
I’m gonna go with: don’t send cops on welfare checks. Send somebody competent to respond to mental health challenges, preferably someone not wearing a police uniform (after all, at this point a lot of folks think “unaccountable killer” when they see that uniform and there’s honestly reason for that).
Send somebody competent - are you sure there are enough competent people willing to this without protection?
In my experience, social worker programs are only understaffed because they are severely underfunded.
And we cycle back to “defund the police” being a bad slogan when we want to direct some of that law enforcement funding to support personal welfare
Maybe they should have borrowed corporate lingo to call for right-sizing police, or restructure community resources.
“Defund the police” is such obviously bad marketing that it makes you wonder if the people who coined the phrase were trying to help or hinder reform efforts.
Calling the police for a wellness check is just legalized swatting…
Calling cops for welfare check is like using chainsaw to cut a pie
It’s like using a gun to make Swiss cheese!
The officer involved in the shooting has been placed on administrative leave, state police said.
They need to start keeping then in jail cells like they do with everyone else whi commits a homicide
Jail cell for thee, paid vacation for me 🐷
That would have to be negotiated in the Police Union contracts. Same reason they can’t fire pedo teachers immediately, they are contractually obligated to keep paying them until they are investigated or found guilty.
Most of these cops “retire” to end the internal investigation and keep their benefits, then decide to “unretire”, and get hired in the next town with a clean record.
The police have one of the strongest unions in America, and almost no one bats an eye. But let Starbucks employees try to unionize and you’ll hear how greedy and corrupt unions are.
Most of these cops “retire” to end the internal investigation and keep their benefits, then decide to “unretire”, and get hired in the next town with a clean record.
This is honestly the only real problem imo. I get sometimes it’s a pretty obvious case, but we do still have due process and they deserve their time in court, no matter how shit they are.
If they couldn’t investigate themselves and the investigations didn’t just end when they quit, we’d be in a much better place.
Fuck that. State or federal police should be arresting them that day. The local cops bargaining only matters because we allow it.
Call of Duty: Modern Welfare
I mean, technically he did do a welfare check. He made sure there was no welfare whatsoever
In the USA, you may get shot by a policeman by answering a welfare check.
In the USA, you may get shot by a policeman
FTFY
They need to send qualified people. Cops are so trigger happy and everyone knows it. At this point the easiest way to commit suicide is to call the cops on yourself, wait for them to arrive, take a $15 airsoft pistol out the door with you, turn so they can see it, wait for them to draw their guns, then level the airsoft pistol as quickly as you can at one of the cops and then boom! I imagine it’s not super popular because cops aren’t the best shot, and you might not die.
They send qualified immune people. It makes for less paperwork and quicker resolutions.
If you wonder why American cops are so trigger happy Amnesty International has the answer:
With Whom are Many U.S. Police Departments Training? With a Chronic Human Rights Violator – Israel
TBF I’d rather have them train with Israel than the people that are beheading babies and burning people alive.
Burning people alive is what israel is famous for. Most of the insane stories you heard on oct7 are quite literally things israel had done to the Palestinians in the past.
I’m not clicking that malware. Find an article from a reputable source or peddle your disinformation elsewhere.
I’m pretty sure you don’t know what a .edu domain name means. It means it’s a university. In this case-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_University_of_New_York_at_Oneonta
Please explain why a public university would be serving malware.
And it just links to a Twitter post as far as I can tell
Thank you. Didn’t know that.
I’d honestly rather have them train with the American military if they have to train with one at all. Then we’re one step close to putting them under UCMJ and watching them babble about someone walking towards them in a court full of combat veterans.
