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Archive link: https://archive.ph/M3WBw

In the clips and in a full video of the event, audience members in the Palo Alto City Council chambers are seen interrupting the proceedings and making false statements. The event mirrored other public meetings in the Bay Area since Oct. 7 where pro-Palestinian activists have vilified Israel and either defended Hamas as a “resistance” movement or denied its brutality on that day.

Julie Lythcott-Haims, a candidate who is currently a member of the Palo Alto City Council, faced more of the vitriol.

“I deplore the actions of Hamas on October 7th,” she said, to one loud “boo!” from a female audience member.

“Really? Really?” Lythcott-Haims said. “They butchered people, murdered people, raped people and took hostages.”

At mention of the word “raped,” the audience exploded with anger. Amid the swell of noise, a boy draped in a Palestinian flag yelled about Hamas: “They did not murder anyone!”

When organizers regained control of the room, Lythcott-Haims said: “I did not know that that would be a controversial statement.”

(video of the exchange is in the original paywalled article but archive.today turns embedded videos into screenshots, so for those who want to see it but can’t open the paywalled article here’s the direct link: https://www.instagram.com/danielleyablonka/reel/C2yyfi9sRMx/)

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  • NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    ISTG if this is one of those “Avoiding civilian casualties is white privilege” arguments I will find you and hang you with my Kufiyah for thinking my people are uncontrollable animals who can’t help doing war crimes.

    No, it’s that any and all acts of violent (and peaceful given that Israel is… Israel but let’s set that aside) resistance will generate harm to civilians one way or another. That comes with the whole package of war.

    Ok yeah so you do actually just see us stinky brown people as incapable of doing resistance without killing indiscriminately, choke on your fake woke shit and die.

    What the fuck? Bruh I’m also “brown” (Egyptian to be specific), and that’s not at all what I’m trying to say here. I never at any point defended the indiscriminate killing. I’m saying that the moment you have a large group of people shooting at each other harm will come to bystanders. Especially when you have nonsense like the Hannibal directive at play.

    That is some “the Nazis are anti-colonial allies because they fought the British and the French!” tier idiocy you just pulled out of your stank ass.

    To use a more accurate analogy, the IRA were and are terrorists who have a decent amount of blood on their hands. They still were freedom fighters.

    Hey moghafil, guess where they get the money to buy those Iranian rockets, from Israel itself, they were literally a sock puppet enemy stood up by Bibi to be easier to justify war crimes against than Fatah.

    Bruh just drop the ad hominem. Also Israel supports Hamas financially, that’s true. But that’s more of a case of Israel abusing an existent movement for its goals rather than any actual cooperation.

    • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      You just tried to say that taking money handed to them by the enemy doesn’t invalidate everything about what Hamas says it is, only reason I buy that you’re Egyptian is because you’re clearly as brainless as a mummy to be pulling this nonsense out ya butt.

      Now ya just look like you’re only going to bat so hard tryna sell them as anti-colonial resistance is because you wanna stan the Muslim brotherhood without being too obvious about it.

      “Nah nah nah I don’t support the Republicans I’m a Libertarian! Totally different!”

      As for your IRA comparison, still doesn’t hold, Sinn Fein created a democracy despite their terrorist actions and tried to target unionists and British occupation. Hamas runs an oligarchy worth billions that it invests exactly nothing of into Gaza’s development, and primarily terrorizes other Gazans because ya can’t run a Muslim theocracy without making shit so awful that the music scene was using the same desert region Hamas’ fighters stormed as their primary performance venue because otherwise they’d be running the risk of being dragged off stage and disappeared by Hamas’ goons.

      They are objectively as much the enemy of Palestine as Israel is, the only reason it’s not more so is because Israel doesn’t pay them enough to develop a technological surveillance state to level up their literal morality policing.

      • NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social
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        9 months ago

        They are objectively as much the enemy of Palestine as Israel is, the only reason it’s not more so is because Israel doesn’t pay them enough to develop a technological surveillance state to level up their literal morality policing.

        Okay I get that this is an emotionally charged subject (and that Hamas is a horrible governing body) but I think your understanding of the relationship between Hamas and Israel is flawed. There’s no conspiracy where Hamas is oppressing the Palestinian people for Israel’s benefit. Not denying they’re oppressing Gaza, but that has nothing to do with Israel; they’re oppressing Gazans because they want to. Israel wants Hamas and other resistance/terror organizations to dominate in Gaza and that’s it, really.