• jet@hackertalks.com
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    11 个月前

    Because the CPU has to decrypt the bulk of the data coming from the disc. And it needs a key to do that. Unless we route all traffic through the TPM to decrypt the disc. The CPU needs a key to do that

    • tias@discuss.tchncs.de
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      11 个月前

      Surely some smart key exchange algorithm could be used for that, e.g. the CPU provides a public key to the TPM and the TPM encrypts the symmetric disk key with that public key. Similar to how TLS works.

      • xradeon@lemmy.one
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        11 个月前

        The private key would have to stored in clear text somewhere. Potentially if you had non volatile space on cpu that to store the private key, that might work. But if you’re going to do that, might as well just use an ftpm.

        • Lojcs@lemm.ee
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          11 个月前

          Just generate one anew. You don’t need to use the same one each time

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            11 个月前

            What do you mean by that? Generate a new private/public key pair every time you setup a new TPM? Or when you boot the system or something?

        • jet@hackertalks.com
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          11 个月前

          Right and not to mention pairing the cpu and tpm for key exchange to avoid mitm attacks…

          • xradeon@lemmy.one
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            11 个月前

            You can’t do that since vulnerability is the connection between the TPM and the CPU, you need to encrypt that path.

            • Lojcs@lemm.ee
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              11 个月前

              Pretty sure they meant if you need to keep a persistent public/private pair you can keep them in the tpm and initiate the exchange from there

            • laughterlaughter@lemmy.world
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              11 个月前

              The TPM comes out from the factory with a private key stored in it. The CPU has the public key.

              You turn on the laptop for the first time, and the communication between the CPU and the TPM is encrypted from the start.

              That’s what I’m referring to. Can’t this be done? I’m guessing it’s not that easy because I’m sure computer designers have already considered this idea.