My country, which has killed more people than any other geopolitical entity in human history and is ruled by a literal monarchy, is clearly free and egalitarian, unlike that horrific autocratic nightmare of…
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…a tiny Central American nation that’s been routinely bombed and exploited for its entire existence.
I just remember whenever I look at maps of “Treaty Sinatories”, "UN Reolutions or “Progressive Movements Worldwide” then Nicaragua and North Korea tend to agree on most things.
I’ve not seen any “propaganda” one way or the other. Literally just my interpretation when looking at maps of the world and voting records.
Oooooh are you one of those people I hear get called “tankies”? You really do yourselves no favours. I’m a socialist but the militancy of people like you give the left a bad name. My point is obvious. Stop being obtuse.
According to Wikipedia: “Since Daniel Ortega’s election in 2006, liberal democratic norms and individual rights in practice have deteriorated.”
My point is they aren’t a bastion of morality. Clear engouh?
I sincerely suggest you learn about the DPRK’s history and how it got to this stage instead of relying on western narratives and outlets; the same imperial nations that colonized the world and is currently supporting a genocide. Korea was divided in two against the people’s will, and the North had 20% of its population slaughtered by the US and most of its infrastructure turned to rubble.
DPRK’s current issues stem from the ridiculous amounts of sanctions on it from the West (similar to Cuba and Zimbabwe; these only harm the people and destabilize the country). It was actually developing at a similar pace to, and even slightly faster than, the South before the USSR’s dissolution.
Ah yes, the liberal US empire that murders people on the industrial scale is the bastion of morality, while people who resist it are AuThoRiTariAn. The only thing that’s clear is that you’re a morally bankrupt individual who runs around calling people slurs.
Look, I know you’re feeling a little dog piled here, so you’re probably going to dismiss this comment as more of that, but I really do just want to ask you to think very, very carefully about these words right here;
I’ve not seen any “propaganda” one way or the other.
Yes. Yes you have. That’s the point. Effective propaganda never openly labels itself as propaganda. That’s like me saying “I am trying to influence your decision.” You’re basically going to immediately refuse to do whatever I suggest. Smart propaganda disguises itself in a myriad of ways that can be extremely difficult recognize.
You are constantly being exposed to propaganda. Accepting that fact, and learning to look for and recognize it, is the first step in freeing yourself from its effects. Telling yourself that you’re not being affected by propaganda is like telling yourself that you don’t have a drinking problem.
Yes, because I wanted some context. If North Korea brought this case I’d take a similar double-take and ask questions.
Instead of downvoting me and being snarky how about you stick to saying the first part of your comment? The part I didn’t realise had changed? Perhaps build upon it by telling me how it changed recently cos I don’t fucking know!
Interesting. Isn’t Nicaragua an extremely autocratic shitole?
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…a tiny Central American nation that’s been routinely bombed and exploited for its entire existence.
It’s not, but I guess that’s the impression you’d get when you guzzle propaganda all day long.
I just remember whenever I look at maps of “Treaty Sinatories”, "UN Reolutions or “Progressive Movements Worldwide” then Nicaragua and North Korea tend to agree on most things.
I’ve not seen any “propaganda” one way or the other. Literally just my interpretation when looking at maps of the world and voting records.
The fish thinks it’s not submerged in water
This map?
Not really sure what point you’re trying to make with that. Both Nicaragua and DPRK are resisting US aggression, and thus have common interest.
Oooooh are you one of those people I hear get called “tankies”? You really do yourselves no favours. I’m a socialist but the militancy of people like you give the left a bad name. My point is obvious. Stop being obtuse.
According to Wikipedia: “Since Daniel Ortega’s election in 2006, liberal democratic norms and individual rights in practice have deteriorated.”
My point is they aren’t a bastion of morality. Clear engouh?
You’re so many memes in just one comment. Keep it up!
I sincerely suggest you learn about the DPRK’s history and how it got to this stage instead of relying on western narratives and outlets; the same imperial nations that colonized the world and is currently supporting a genocide. Korea was divided in two against the people’s will, and the North had 20% of its population slaughtered by the US and most of its infrastructure turned to rubble.
I recommend the third season of Blowback for its history, and perhaps documentaries like My Brothers And Sisters In The North, or Loyal Citizens of Pyongyang in Seoul
Boy Boy also made a made a cool video where they visited the DPRK.
DPRK’s current issues stem from the ridiculous amounts of sanctions on it from the West (similar to Cuba and Zimbabwe; these only harm the people and destabilize the country). It was actually developing at a similar pace to, and even slightly faster than, the South before the USSR’s dissolution.
Fun fact: the UN praises DPRK’s robust healthcare system for being able to function so well despite the sanctions. Only possible cuz of its Socialist nature.
Ah yes, the liberal US empire that murders people on the industrial scale is the bastion of morality, while people who resist it are AuThoRiTariAn. The only thing that’s clear is that you’re a morally bankrupt individual who runs around calling people slurs.
Look, I know you’re feeling a little dog piled here, so you’re probably going to dismiss this comment as more of that, but I really do just want to ask you to think very, very carefully about these words right here;
Yes. Yes you have. That’s the point. Effective propaganda never openly labels itself as propaganda. That’s like me saying “I am trying to influence your decision.” You’re basically going to immediately refuse to do whatever I suggest. Smart propaganda disguises itself in a myriad of ways that can be extremely difficult recognize.
You are constantly being exposed to propaganda. Accepting that fact, and learning to look for and recognize it, is the first step in freeing yourself from its effects. Telling yourself that you’re not being affected by propaganda is like telling yourself that you don’t have a drinking problem.
DPRK stay winning
Good thing maps cannot be propaganda
I think you’re thinking about your own country there mate. You still have a bloody monarchy, impossible to be more autocratic than that…
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Yes, because I wanted some context. If North Korea brought this case I’d take a similar double-take and ask questions.
Instead of downvoting me and being snarky how about you stick to saying the first part of your comment? The part I didn’t realise had changed? Perhaps build upon it by telling me how it changed recently cos I don’t fucking know!
Frankly they have a very good case, should they choose to bring it.
Derailing a thread about supporters of genocide to call Nicaragua an “autocratic shitole” is what libs would call “whataboutism.”
NK is not and has never been responsible for genocide and indeed does condemn Israel in the strongest terms. Try again, weaboo.
What makes you think Nicaragua is similar to North Korea?