Apologies for title spelling errors. Apparently the title box doesn’t arouse autocomplete or spell check.
Seriously. For my entire life I’ve been able to look at any random porn site and know I wasn’t going to see various things : children, rape, insest, scat, etc etc.
When the fuck did incest porn become acceptable? Let alone mainstream?
There’s not even an opinion to NOT see it. (but I’m given the option to not see gay porn)
Like. I don’t care that it exists. I’m not shaming anyone for being into it but
I DON’T WANT TO SEE IT ON MY FUCKING PORN LISTS
The actresses are usually better looking
They’re not related so it’s not weird
I think step porn is so popular because it basically establishes a relationship beforehand, even though it is familial. This gives our guy or whatever proxy for the audience they use a preexisting relationship (creates a taboo and and a reason why they know each other), proximity and opportunities for interaction, no need to go to a bar or whatever (makes the script easy to explain why they are forced together in a situation.
I think it makes creating porn easier since it quickly explains why these two or more people are around each other in a lonely house or hotel room (ease of filming venue), gives them a preexisting relationship with maybe hidden desire (no wooing or any modern prerequisites before meeting a potential sexual partner), it’s a bit taboo but easily ignored by the majority of the audience, and finally an established easy premise to follow and write with a lot of variation to the formula.
Man, are that many people actually watching porn for the plot?
I actually do. Like i don’t need a movie or a backstory or anything, but just two people fucking seems boring and leaves nothing to the imagination.
You’re the odd one out if you don’t
I answered this in another thread, so I’m just gonna copy and paste my answer here. Sorry if the context comes off slightly odd, like I said it was originally elsewhere:
I’ve thought about the topic and I think I can answer why there has been a rise in step-porn.
I think it’s pretty simple: people are more isolated, and people now socialize online.
We’re simply seeing less of each other than we ever have (especially during the pandemic, but this isn’t specific just to that timeline). Whereas we used to go out and socialize and develop crushes in the real world, for a lot of people, especially a lot of young men, these days the vast majority, if not all, of the non-online social interactions they’re having with the opposite sex are within their own homes. And while our brains may be adapting to this new internet landscape well enough, I think our bodies are still lagging behind. When you’re an 18 year with raging hormones, the sexual drive extends beyond the reasonable brain. And so it attaches to what your libido recognizes as the other sexually viable candidates regularly in your sphere of influence: the women inside your own home. And thus they develop crushes on their mothers, their siblings, their stepsiblings, and are turned on by pornography that lets them indulge in this taboo but still very real crush.
And to be clear, I am attempting to explain the phenomenon, I am not attempting to excuse or justify it. Incest is gross and faux/step-incest may be biologically better but is still pretty socially/culturally fucked.
I’m just glad I grew up in the 90s before our lives had moved so heavily online.
For my entire life I’ve been able to look at any random porn site and know I wasn’t going to see various things : children, rape, insest, scat, etc etc.
Damn, has the internet become that clean? Good for you, young people! Also: thank you, Lemmy admins, for dealing with all the child porn spam so quickly, because it’s definitely here as well.
When the fuck did incest porn become acceptable? Let alone mainstream?
It’s been there as long as I can remember, so at least fifteen years.
What has changed, I think, is how horny people have become on main. I’m not surprised the totally-not-incest stuff and other taboo topics are still around, but it seems like the shame and awkwardness of discussing or referencing it online has disappeared. No more alt accounts, isolated forums, just straight up porn references on the Reddit front page.
Partially due to how difficult it is to make accounts now, everything is tied to some form of identification, and truly anonymous accounts have a shit ton of hoops to jump through to deter trolls and bots.
Yeah, this is the same problem I have with ugly people seeking validation and the woke kids feeding them in the web pages where I’m trying to get my dick hard. Get your yuck out of my yum.
I’ve heard the theory that porn these days is so over the top and intense a lot of the times, that you can just turn off the sound to step porn and get more moderate, missionary, “plain” style porn if that’s your jam.
I have zero opinion either way, as I read my porn, this is just a hypothesis I’ve heard 🤷♀️
Honestly I hate how much porn includes anal. It’s a turn off for me, and I hate how anal obsessed the porn industry is. I like the more plain stuff too, and we’re living in a golden age of great quality amateur, self posted porn.
I’ve gone full circle to the really bad quality amateur stuff as it seems much less fake to me.
Strangling, too, eww. Or even butt slaps - why?! I’d never! Instant off button.
Late to the party, but I can literally pinpoint the exact moment that it became popular. It was a Mandy Flores step son video that was really well done as far as acting went. It really introduced it in a way that probably got a lot of people into it. I can’t stand it, but even I will admit it was a good video for the time because it was more like a teasing video with good acting if you can get past the step stuff
That single video went despacito-esque top of the chart for literally a year. A few months after that video, they started popping up and 2 years later we are at the point where literally 50% of professional content is step-something.
I removed reference video because of rules, I realized. It is #1 most viewed on the hub of all time
Step porn is incest porn in a bad fake moustache.
I’m thinking that a bad mustache is harder to tell from a bad fake mustache.
My guess is that it appeals to a sizable minority of people while at the same time not turning off the majority of people because they know it’s just actors who aren’t truly related.
I prefer my porn not to have any story to it at all, but that doesn’t stop me from watching the stuff which hamfists a story into it. I just skip to what I want to see.
I guess this is why Cheating/NTR porn is also so regional in terms of popularity. Because how much it turns off others fluctuates and it lingers on the border.
What does NTR stand for?
Netorare, Cuckholdery. Basically an entire branch of porn where the plot has one man watch “his” woman be taken by another man. It’s overdone in some circles and completely absent in others which makes me think there’s some degree of turnoff associated with it that is cultural.
Yeah, I think it’s this. Scat porn, for comparison, turns off most people so having a bunch of it up on a main page is going to hurt traffic. I’m guessing there must have been some legal issue that turned all the incest porn into step incest porn, but regardless most people probably don’t care if a scene starts with someone calling the other person “step brother” or something. Some people probably actually prefer that. So the benefits outweigh the negatives for the sites.
I’m guessing there must have been some legal issue that turned all the incest porn into step incest porn
I believe in some jurisdictions it’s illegal to depict nuclear incest in porn, even though it’s fictional.
Also I would speculate that the actual fetish comes from the fact that a decent amount of people would have had a step-sibling added to their family during their adolescence, which could have influenced their fantasies and taboos. If you’re a 13 year old boy and suddenly there is a 14 year old girl living in your house that you aren’t blood-related to, it could easily lead to some weird fantasies popping into your head.
nuclear incest
I’m too afraid to google it, but I bet there’s a heavy metal band already using that name…
Not challenging just clarifying; Is your speculation extending to suggest that the larger demographic of porn consumers online are adolescents? Or more that the “step-*” joining the family set a longer term influence? (Or something else entirely…?)
The latter. Many people form sexual tastes during adolescence.
AFAIK, it’s not the legality per se that keeps the actual incest off the provider, but that credit card companies won’t allow their cards to be used to pay for such services.
But I’m just a regular pervert on the internet. I’m only parroting what I read online.
I prefer my porn not to have any story to it at al
I need at least three hours of complex plot to even get hard.
I saw the extended Lord of the Rings in the theater. They had to replace my seat afterwards.
To quote John Carmack: “Story in a [video] game is like story in a porn movie. It’s expected to be there, but it’s not that important.” Said the technical guy behind DOOM.
Your title talks about “step” porn but the post is about incest.
Step-relatives are not biological relatives, so not the same as incest. And I’d guess the reason it is popular is because a lot of people have a lot of inappropriate thoughts about members of their step-family, and because there is still an element of taboo which gets some people off.
By the amount of step porn I would estimate the number of people with step family members to be much larger than it actually is.
They use “step” as a way to say “oh no it’s totally not incest fantasy”.
Because it’s the easiest way to fulfill a niche while doing absolutely nothing that requires effort.
Content wise it’s the same as anything else, they just change the title and the actors say “step bro” like ten times in the intro and then it’s just normal porn.
Weird cluster of socially isolated weirdos who get off on the taboo and/or actually want to fuck a relative but know it would end in like the worst way imaginable if that became known.
Basically picture an entire demographic of George Michael Bluths
I feel like originally it was a semi-safe taboo to break that made a standard porn setup seem more forbidden/risqué. It always seemed weird, like how many people have step siblings that also fantasize about them sexually, how big could this be? But it just kept on coming, so to speak.
Now I think it’s just a meme/SEO thing, where you have to include it even if the video is not even pretending to be about that. Also it happened around the same time that websites were pushing/pivoting into more content creator type things, and so it’s probably related to that as well. Like the annoying face+exaggerated reaction thing on YouTube…
Either way, always seemed whacky that everything the sites serve is almost completely step-porn on the front page.
The same people who popularized fucking their cousins, of course.
