many engines do not require this procedure. It depends on whether the engine is equipped with hydro-compensators: these are devices designed for automatic adjustment of the thermal gap. They work at the expense of the oil entering them from the engine (that is why, actually, and are called “hydro-compensators”) and completely exclude the necessity of periodic manual adjustment of valves.
I’ve never met an engine that doesn’t need valve adjustments, even with hydraulic lifters.
Now the adjustment period is far longer today, like in the 100k miles range.
Just be glad you rarely see shim/bucket adjustment these days. Boy was that a bitch.
And who are the people that are the reason for this having to be in the manual. Its the people that were born 50+ years ago…
OK Tucker
Proper fucking boring boomer banter that.
Before Reagan
This is the best way I can put it.
Before Reagan was elected, middle class was defined as one income supporting a family of four. In those days $1 million was still considered a vast fortune. By the time Bush Sr. was voted out, middle class had been redefined as two incomes to run the house, and $1 million was what a rich guy paid for a party.
Are we boomer posting today?
Boomer-est image I’ve seen in a while
We’ve actually been misunderstanding the phrase this whole time. It’s not “common sense” and referring to things everyone should know; it’s actually “common cents” and is about those take-a-penny-leave-a-penny things. As in “when you’re just a little short, use some common cents.” 😌
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_sense
The origin of the term “common sense” is in the works of Aristotle.
Right, I’m sure Aristotle knew a lot about take-a-penny-leave-a-penny and cents… Unless you’re just memeing, in which case ignore me
Okay, Dad.
And who put lead in the gas?
Which generation can’t let go of power?
Nah…
And asbestos in the walls? And said cigarettes were healthy?
And i still miss those old manuals… Just let me fix my car mate
You can find service manuals online. I found the full blown 1,397 page OEM service manual for my '97 Prelude. For free. And failing that, there’s probably a YouTube video for it, especially if it’s not something incredibly rare.
The keyword is right there: 97. Anything after ~2014 and it’s a mess to find manuals, for older stuff i was able to easily find manuals and fix them no problem
You can’t, because the previous generations allowed capitalism to ruin consumer goods with regulatory capture and planned obsolescence.
I mean, I’m pretty sure cars’ lifespans have generally increased over the years, despite not being able to easily tweak valves or what have you. So many older cars don’t have a 6th digit on the odometer because it was so common for a car to die after about 100,000 miles anyway. Now you might hit some issues, but that kind of mileage is basically your car’s equivalent of a person’s 40th birthday.
Yes, technology does march forward. That doesn’t change the fact that many cars you’re not even allowed to touch yourself, even the few things you can fix that don’t require expensive speciality tools.
That doesn’t change the fact that many cars you’re not even allowed to touch yourself
I’ve touched myself in every car I’ve ever been in, but I’m something of a handyman.
That Uber driver was not amused
If I have to take the car to the dealership and only the dealership can fix my problem its not a car I want I’m gonna be real with you.
The only item in my Honda (that I am aware of) that requires dealership attention is calibrating the “Honda Sense” sensors if they get replaced. And that is because the equipment required is so expensive, only the dealership carries it.
Plus, the only time I needed that was when I was hit by someone and the sensor was replaced because the panels were replaced.
I can still do all the minor maintenance myself, it is just a LOT more convenient for me to let my mechanic do it.
Love my Honda. (Please bring back the Fit!)
It’s time to resurrect the corolla in the backyard.
I’llbe 100% honest, bud, but if you can’t find a service manual on the internet or simply ask at the dealership I probably wouldn’t trust you to do the work. They’re available, just try even a little. And boy if you trust what little information may or may not be in an owner’s manual…
Besides, the only reason that info was in there was because the valves needed much more frequent adjusting. You really shouldn’t miss not needing to have that information so readily available.
You’d be surprised how hard it is to find manuals these days.
Manufacturers have taken to:
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Not printing them at all
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Hiding them behind paywalls with exorbitant prices
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It’s there because someone stupid fuck did it, and the car manufacturer don’t want to be legally responsible next time it happens.
It’s actually because valves were shit way back when and they are no longer something that the owner’s manual needs to explain. Many car manufacturers suck but this one is actually because they don’t anymore.
I’d make a “print a pdf” joke, but honestly, that’s already an unnecessary “skill”.
Sadly, technology has moved towards single finger usability and thrown out features in the process. Printing a PDF is now easy, because there’s a big button (that sells you a cloud subscription for some reason), but it’s also the only thing the app does.
top 10 reasons I have my printer firewalled from the WAN network
Now the new skill is “print to pdf”
That comes out of the box with current versions of Windows. The era of Bullzip PDF Printer is gone.
Yet its still a surprise to many. But I suppose that’s a knowledge gap not a skill issue. Now getting younger folks these day to follow a file directory, that’s a true challenge.
PDFs are designed to be printed, that’s why they’re formatted as pages instead of continuous text like HTML. “Portable Document Format”. Unless I’m missing some reference you’re making here.
The joke to counter “you can’t even write cursive” and other boomer bs is “well at least I know how to print a PDF”, alluding to the abysmal tech intuition of some boomers, usually those in controlling roles like managers or CEOs.
Last I checked, my generation didn’t put Reagan into office.
no, just trump
Trump is a symptom of a disease that Reagan was the harbinger of. Without Reagan and all that followed after him, you do not get a Trump presidency.
The butterfly effect so to say
More the dung beetle effect actually.
Sure Reagan’s an asshole. But do we really think the corporations wouldn’t have figured this out regardless?
If you want to get technical it was largely folks who were adults during the regan presidency who trump in.
My generation wasn’t much of his support but great job with the “voters who voted against this are also to blame” bullshit!
Older vehicles easier to work on, go out of spec more often.
Stupid people always existed. The difference is now they have TikTok and twitter, so we can see their stupidity more.
Some one made the KEY comment about lawsuits. Today people sue over anything. Like you are so stupid you spill hot coffee on yourself. (coffee is hot) and then blame the people that you bought the coffee from. In earlier days simple logic was accepted and dumb people wouldn’t be able to find ambulance chasers to file lawsuits for them. Today “instructions” to guide the dumber people are actually to prevent lawsuits.
As someone else pointed out, it was a justified lawsuit. Additionally, they were told the coffee was too hot and should lower the temperature and they refused.
The woman had to sue, and only asked for her medical bills to be paid, around $18k. Again, McDonald’s refused. They then hired people to act like this was an attack, when they knew they were wrong.
It was the jury who decided that $2 million was what the woman was owed. Also, I heard that was 2 days of hamburger sales. The fact McDonald’s is still around makes me think they recovered.
Ok boomer
The story with the hot coffee is a capitalist trope. Serving 88°C coffee to someone who than suffers third degree burns (prognosis: Scarring, contractures, amputation (early excision recommended)) due to a spill is a valid law suit. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck_v._McDonald's_Restaurants
Thank You! They intentionally served the coffee hotter than their cups were even rated for all to minimize people getting refills and it was well documented by their own employees that people were getting hurt as a result.
The person filing the lawsuit only wanted their medical bills covered. The JURY decided to go punitive and instead gave like 2 days of coffee profits instead (NOTE: The judge then said ‘fuck that’ and reduced the punitive amount down to ~25% of the amount the jury decided on … or 3x what they medical bills came out to because actually _punishing _ a company isn’t allowed).
McDonalds’ smear campaign against this poor woman has been so disgustingly successful.
Yeah if you look any deeper than just reading the title, “coffee hot duh” is a stupid response to that lawsuit
The lawsuits are not about being stupid, theyre about money. Lawyers won that lawsuit, and they didn’t do it by being stupid.
