I don’t get it. Her music is sometimes catchy but otherwise unremarkable, from the songs I’ve heard. How does she break all these records and accumulate so much fame and wealth?
She’s pretty, but a lot of singer songwriters are, especially those with makeup and costume people, a support staff.
Is there something else to her that people like?
I’m confused about what makes her so apparently uniquel or phenomenal.
I wanted to chime in, since I’m in the unique situation of not being a “Swiftie” but still having an above-average knowledge of Taylor Swift due to being married to a Swiftie.
For starters, her songs are very relatable for women. Especially in women around her age, she was routinely writing songs that spoke to the emotions during each periods of their lives. My wife, for example, was in middle/high school when Taylor was releasing her romantic country songs, and met me right around when Taylor released Lover. This is all because Taylor is extremely autobiographical with her lyrics and was writing about what she was experiencing at the time. She wrote lovesongs in Speak Now because she was in high school and early college when she produced the album. She wrote Lover because she had met a man who, at the time, she perceived to be a man she could spend the rest of her life with. Since Red, very few of her songs are about hypothetical situations. Almost all of them are about her real experiences as a person and as a woman, with the exception of folklore and Evermore, and that speaks to women in a very strong way. Her lyrics and reasons behinds songs are deep, much deeper than most give her credit for.
Additionally, she is extremely good at marketing. Many of her songs and albums have Easter eggs in them that only true fans will be able to find. She also drops a lot of cryptic hints, which her fans love to dissect and interpret to try and predict major releases or announcements. It’s just good fun for them, and it increases the hype significantly. Also, her concerts are not just live music, they’re a whole show. The Eras concert is 3 hours long, and she is singing and running the entire time. She rarely lip-syncs - I say rarely because I’ve heard claims that she does but I have never seen it - and gives it her all every single concert. Her band and many of her dancers and support staff have been with her for a decade or more now, and they have continued to routinely put on shows to the best of their abilities without fail.
Finally, she is, most Swifties believe, a genuinely good person. The worst thing I’ve ever heard of her doing is loaning her private jet out to her friends and families which caused her to break the news because her jet was causing a lot of emissions. Beyond that, she seems to be a grounded woman who genuinely loves her fans and the people around her.
If you take nothing else away from this post, this is the most important fact: She is relatable to women. She sings about her lived experiences, many of which are relatable to her fans.
Thanks, I’ve really appreciate your perspective.
A lot of what you said rings true and certainly fits in with everything else
My wife has just informed me of the latest Easter egg, to further explain the marketing prowess and give an example.
She has changed her profile picture to black and white, rather than full color. While trivial to non-Swift fans, this is a red alert to her die-hards. I haven’t heard many of the theories yet (my wife often distills them down to the most reasonable for me, thankfully), but her favorite so far is that it is signaling her intent to release the “Taylor’s version” (re-recording) of her album Reputation, which is one of her most popular albums and has a black and white theming. This is the kind of puzzles and theory crafting thst many Swift fans find so enthralling
Ha, okay, so there’s a whole puzzle culture to everything she presents. Yes, that would attract a lot of people as well. Thanks
Think of a dish made by a world class chef, that food is probably exquisitely crafted using unique and fresh ingredients. There probably aren’t that many people out there who truly appreciate it, and probably a lot who just think it’s weird.
Now think of pizza. It’s relatively cheap and broadly appealing. It wouldn’t be put in the same class as the food prepared by the chef, but a lot more of it gets consumed.
Taylor Swift is talented, pretty, affable, has a superior work ethic, and makes music that’s catchy and easily digestible. Like pizza, her music appeals to the broadest group of people.
The world class chef can only cook for a few at a time. Digital distribution means big voice.
I disagree with this. She’s a pretty amazing song writer, which is really uncommon for pop stars. I can see why someone would think she’s more like pizza if you only listen to the hits, but if you actually sit down and listen to a whole album you’ll find that there aren’t many songs that are just flat-out bad. Actually, one my favorites by her is a B side. You can actually track her progress as a musician from fairly generic country artist to someone who has a really unique and uncomplicated sound. I mean, I get why people go for the “simple = easy”, but that’s simply not the case. It’s really difficult to write a song that is as clean and as well put together as she does and still have it be good. To continue your food metaphor, Taylor would be like sushi; there doesn’t have to be a ton of ingredients to be incredibly delicious.
Then you also have to consider that she’s Gen Z, has been doing this for 18 years, and has managed to stay fairly relevant most of that time. Like she really is the only Gen Z pop star who has managed to stay in the limelight without dropping out of being a complete tool (Justin Bieber).
You also have to consider that for a long time she had a carefully crafted public image as a champion of the LGBTQ+ community. Whether she actually is or isn’t doesn’t really matter (I personally think it’s a lot of rainbow-washing) when you have bops like “You Need to Calm Down”. Or the fact that she features a bunch of trans people in the video she directed for “Lavender Haze”.
How is she an amazing song writer? What song do you think stands out and is amazing?
I feel like this is kind of a trap question. Everything about this entire thread feels that way - I don’t want it to seem as if I’m attacking you here - and it’s a microcosm of why discussion of Swift is so polarizing. For some reason, she, more than any other artist I can call to mind, is discussed in black and white terminology. There’s almost no middle ground. You need to either love her or hate her.
Does she possess the lyrical genius of, like, Leonard Cohen? I mean, I don’t know. I think she’s pretty great, but back in the day I’d have been stoned to death on r/Music for suggesting they were in the same league.
What I will say is I think she’s as honest as Cohen was, and that’s something the best songwriters all have. I think she writes from an extremely authentic place, and I respect the hell out of that. In recent years, I think co-writing with Jack Antonoff has only further unlocked her potential.
Some examples of hers I think are great - You’re On Your Own Kid, Champagne Problems, and My Tears Ricochet.
Her pop stuff has some great lyricism as well, but pop music as a genre is generally under appreciated for its lyrics. Obviously, not in all cases; there’s a shitload of manufactured garbage out there. But most of the 1989 album is borderline - if not outright - excellent in this regard. It didn’t get any serious attention though until that shitbag Ryan Adams covered the whole thing, and got people to hear the lyrics in a different way.
I understand you feel that way. But this thread made me give her a chance, so I listened to a couple of her albums. They were pretty decent. Catchy music, good car music. So I get it, she is pretty good. I guess I wouldn’t call her amazing but I can see how others may feel that way.
I haven’t looked into her lyrics yet. If she is honest, that sounds great to me.
Thank you. :)
She’s a pretty amazing song writer, which is really uncommon for pop stars.
Just because you make pizza, doesn’t mean you don’t make great pizza. I’m not saying she’s out here making $0.99 Mr. P’s Pizzas (“fabulous” in their own right).
Then you also have to consider that she’s Gen Z, has been doing this for 18 years, and has managed to stay fairly relevant most of that time.
I’ve considered it, but it’s not true. She may appeal to Gen Z but she was born in '89, making her dead center of being a millennial.
I’ve never said she’s bad, but if you’ve ever listened to more complex music, her’s isn’t that. She’s great at what she does, and seemingly smart and levelheaded, and that’s fantastic. But to say her songs are masterpieces that are like beautifully woven tapestry of lyrics and music, I don’t see it. And, in all fairness, if they were, she’d probably have a fan base 95% smaller.
Is she NY style or deep dish?
I like this explanation, but I feel like there are plenty of other artists who fit into that category.
Is it just random that they had to pick one brand of pizza to go crazy over do you think?
Gordon Ramsay isn’t the best chef on the world, still he has the most restaurants by a big margin
A ton of people would say Tswift is their ultimate fantasy fuck even though she isn’t the hottest girl on the planet (she still could be a model probably, being slim and tall)
Being famous always has a certain pull to it and if you do it right you can leverage being famous to become even more famous
Worlds top athletes are overpaid (at least in team sports) would you rather have the #1 player or a team full of top 100 players… Well the #1 player sells a ton of merch, but almost always the team with more depth is winning games (if the budget is equal)
Top athletes are grossly underpaid. Basketball straight up truncates them. Giannis would make at least double on the open market. Football, the best players make the same as second and third tier players at their position, entirely dependent on when they hit FA.
She is a damn fine businesswoman. She was able to use social media to have a relationship with her followers and build a large audience. That’s one of the main reasons she became famous.
Also, there have been a couple of situations that benefited her fame, such as the Kanye incident
“Relationship”… More like getting liked because she is pretty.
Uh oh, someone is upset because a beautiful woman is also good at other things.
You are right - beautiful woman are always good at things. Can’t criticize them because that’s just out of bounds. :)
Cause that’s totally what I said 🤣
Thanks
Luck and timing are big factors. There are many talented artists out there that work hard and make the kind of music that (in theory) should appeal to a large audience but never make it. Either at all or not to the level of Taylor Swift. If you make the right music at the right time, your chances increase but you still need luck.
Edit: what I’ve heard of Taylor is that she’s very good in making the right music at the right time. The songs fit the trends in music. But I’ve never listened much to her, so I don’t know for sure if its correct
Thanks, someone else compared her to other pop stars like Michael Jackson and Madonna, and all of those people were at the forefront of their particular movement.
I feel like Taylor Swift is just in the middle of all the other pop stars.
Appreciate it, I’m going to try and look into it from that perspective, maybe I just don’t understand the music world at all. I definitely don’t.
I just remembered a big factor as to why artists such as Madonna have a long career: they managed to appeal to the queer crowd, who tend to be fiercely dedicated to anyone who stands up for them.
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My brother is a swiftie and seems to think that her talent is above and beyond a standard artists talent. One thing that is praised is how much range she has covered across her albums.
I’m personally not a fan, and to me she seems overrated, but I also have to recognize the mass following and legitimate consistency in the music quality. She’s not like a Katy Perry recycling the same tune.
So I think she’s like a really nice pizza, appealing but always good quality, always fresh.
She might not recycle the same tune, but it kinda seems like she recycles the same themes verbatim. I’d say she’s closer to Papa John’s than a good quality pizza shop. Her music is probably good, but I doubt that it’s usually great.
You have to explore all her albums in order to really form that opinion. People who like that kind of music will do so, and likely decide that she is phenomenal.
But then folks like you and me will not want to take time to ingest all that music that doesn’t appeal to us, so we have to speculate based off what we get exposed to which is generally her pop songs on the radio and such. But we aren’t really getting the full Taylor Swift. So it’s like we’re judging a sample of her stuff (which sounds like a lot of other pop cuz all pop sounds basically the same) and oversimplify what she offers to music.
I’m completely speculating… Like I said we’d have to dive into all those albums and listen to really form a meaningful opinion.
A couple people have mentioned her range, but they also only mention her relationship and breakup songs. What else does she sing about that gives her range?
When people talk about her range they are usually talking about musical styles, she has a lot of different sounds. Not all of her songs are about relationships, but probably most of them, they are not all about breakups though. That isn’t too uncommon though, probably one of the most common things people sing about.
Totally agree, relationships breakups probably cover a large percentage of pop music anyway.
Does she have a lot of different sounds just in pop music or does she also delve into completely different genres?
Probably not like Andre 3000 going out and making an ambient album, but there are a lot of differences stylistically. For example her pandemic albums Folklore and Evermore are a lot less traditional pop, and can be more folk sounding. Doing some songs with Bon Iver helped that too.
I think a lot of times people associate her with bubblegum pop from a lot of the singles that came out maybe ten years ago and were heavily played on the radio but that hasn’t been the sound for a while.
Thanks, got it
Just like pizza, artist go off after a while. (It just takes longer)
Except for all of the artists who don’t.
And a lot of the artists who do “go off” don’t get 81 awards in a decade and a half.
The pizza has been carefully crafted by teams of experts to appeal to the largest audience.
As someone who couldn’t name a single Swift song up until a couple of months ago — From what I read she writes the vast majority of her songs, which is exceptionally rare for pop stars; especially from such a young age… The songs may be simplistic and formulaic, but the lyrics are decent for the age they were written at, and the work ethic and genre jumping is impressive. The most admirable thing about her is how she’s screwing venture capitalists by re-recording all the songs she wrote. I hope she starts redistributing all that wealth she’s extracting.
Ok just don’t forget she came from money and had opportunities:
She traveled there with her mother at age eleven to visit record labels
That definitely helps. I think it’s interesting that access to uncommon opportunities is generally presented as a negative thing in Taylor Swift’s case but ignored for Michael Jackson or even contemporaries like Beyonce.
Oh no I’ll happily call out anyone for that.
She’s pretty and blond as well… oh, and white.
It’s like Britney all over again.
Smart, pretty, rich parents in positions to boost her early career, generic songs that young women and girls everywhere can project their own issues onto, blonde and white, early career (and again, blonde pretty and white) made her more popular with the country crowd, tons of luck…
Talent can only get you so far.
What is Taylor’s ‘Toxic’ though?
That girl invests in real estate, she’s not stupid enough to make a song like that.
How fucking dare you. That’s an absolute banger.
But way way bigger and with way more awards. And records.
And smarter, a lot smarter than Britney.
Does this take any effort though?
What, being smart?
Being smarter than Britney.
And are there not plenty of other popular artists?
There are, and none with so many awards or the same kind of popularity.
Taylor for me is extremely emotional and autobiographical. I connect emotionally with her songs in a way that allows me to feel what she’s feeling. Music is emotional and usually has a message, but for me her music does make me feel more.
Which makes sense, I always loved pink Floyd for their art and what they were trying to say, I usually am an emotional person, and I think for a lot of people that’s why she’s popular.
You have an emotion you’re working through? She’s got a song for it.
for me her music does make me feel more.
Which makes sense, I always loved Pink Floyd
What the actual fuck? That’s like comparing Rembrandt to the hot girl in your class who’s pretty good at drawing 3 different things 🤦
I don’t think a more wildly different artist to TS could be found than Pink Floyd. Things they have in common: are human. Trolling or what?
Lol nope, I’m a fan of both. People don’t need to be put in buckets where they only like something’s and not others.
I’ve seen Roger Waters twice, watched him build the wall on stage and send out the inflatables, and it kicked ass.
Also saw Eras last year in person, and it was the most precise well thought out concert I’ve seen.
No rules in life saying you can’t like both
I mean that’s cool, I don’t like boxes either. Just a very unexpected comparison
Thank you for your answer, I’m glad to hear from a fan of hers.
So her songs are making you feel something in a way other female artists who sing about breakups do not?
Does she mostly sing about relationships? I haven’t listened to much of her stuff, just whatever is the popular stuff that I wouldn’t be able to avoid while I’m walking around.
And then the first few songs that pop up when I type in Swift on YouTube because I’m trying to figure out the answer to this question after she breaks like the 12th record of her career
Relationships were a key one in her earlier albums, but there’s a lot more. I think her singing about her experiences is part of the reasons millennials really tend to her especially, we kind of grew up with her
The awkward teenage years, the first loves, the deep friend connections, losing those friends, romantic betrayal, work betrayal, and more.
She also is extremely versatile. She’s played and experimented with different types of music. People like to shoehorn her into pop, but she’s done obviously country, pop, folk, a bit of rock, lover in my mind was a decent synth album, she’s played around with a lot
That’s why we all talk about her Eras, each era in her life she made an album, and that album usually has a different style. Personally my favorite is reputation, which was heavier and more electronic. Synth? Like I said try Lover or Midnights. Folk like Mumford and sons or Lumineers? Try Folklore and Evermore.
One thing for sure is that you don’t have to like everything or anything of hers, but she has such range that it is rare that someone hates every song of hers.
Also I should say I’m a mod of !taylorswift@poptalk.scrubbles.tech and the dozens of us lemmy swifties are always happy to have more members :)
I really like synth and I think they are her least referenced work in this post so far, but I’m very interested in listening to her synth albums.
Thanks
Sure didn’t expect her to be compared with Floyd.
Probably because it’s a very weird comparison to make. If I had to pick a polar opposite of pop music in most every way, I would probably pick one of the weirder pink Floyd albums.
Not weird at all. Roger Waters was extremely autobiographical with his music, he sang extensively about the war, family, and what he was going through. The Wall sure but The Final Cut was intense, dude has some emotions to process.
Taylor and him do the same thing, just different life experiences. He is more political but far, but she’s gone political, look at The Man, You Need to Calm Down, and one of her most scathing ones, Miss Americana and the Heartbreak Prince.
For shows as well I’ve never seen more well put on shows, Roger Waters with The Wall and Taylor with Eras, both extremely precise shows, they are both absolute showmen.
Alright I’ll give those songs a listen. I appreciate the response
This hurts.
Her songs are produced by the CIA and contain subliminal messages that make her irresistible.
CIA are here and down voting you. Stay frosty.
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This makes about as much sense to me as the apparent means by which he has become this successful.
He/she is obviously kidding.
Not me, I only speak in serious absolutes.
Why so serious?
Either that or I’m a republican.
See, that comment right there, means you’re probably not.
She makes music that a lot of people really like. Often times because they relate. It sounds like it’s not your kind of music, and that’s fine. Not really any more to it.
That doesn’t explain all of the awards. And it’s not just a lot of people, it’s often a historical amount of people right?
That many people and that many awards just because she has the same formula every other pop star has?
She’s really good at making pop music. Just because it doesn’t appeal to you doesn’t mean she’s not good.
My friend Alex is really into metal music. Like, it’s all he listens to. Every once in a while I’ll listen to some of his songs, and they all sound the same to me. The stuff he says is awful sounds the same to me as the stuff he says is incredible. That doesn’t mean there’s no variation in metal or that it’s all just formulaic, and it doesn’t mean that bands can’t be really good at making and playing metal music, it just means I can’t tell when they are, cause it’s not my kind of music.
It appears to be the same for you and pop music. It all sounds the same to you because it’s not your kind of music.
Wow! Those are pretty virulent, unsubstantiated assumptions.
I like pop music, hence my curiosity.
The reason I prefaced my statement with “it appears” is precisely because I didn’t want to assume.
A velvet glove on an iron fist.
I suggest speaking and theorizing based on your personal experience rather than the positions you assume others take.
Ok, so take this same disdain that you have for other people assuming your thoughts and feelings, and apply it to your own views on Taylor Swift’s fans. Just like you, they have their own thoughts and feelings, and unlike you, they don’t find her music unremarkable.
And look, here we are, there’s a huge post where people answering the question I actually asked instead of funneling irrelevant natives toward boring conclusions.
Yes, everyone has their likes and dislikes, kudos to your revelation, but aren’t you curious about the world at all? How it functions? Why people like that they like?
If not, you probably aren’t going to understand or appreciate the conversations going on all around you gainfully answering the question this post presents, in which people try to pin down, or rather, crowdsource a theory on what makes someone who is unremarkable from a distance so culturally celebrated and unique.
fucking based
Awards are generally either the industry giving itself awards for their own products or a metric of sales, which is a product of good marketing. Neither of these things have to do with talent or originality.
I’m leaning here also, I’m really interested in the awards she receives now that she’s re-recorded her albums versus the amount she got when she broke out.
She makes music that a lot of people really like.
That doesn’t explain all of the awards.
Yes it literally does. Disappointed to see OP approach this with such bad faith—it’s clear you don’t want to have your predetermined conclusions challenged. :(
This is an open-ended question, and there have been tons of useful, insightful answers that have changed my views if you cared to read, as to why this particular pop star, who doesn’t seem to differ much from most other pop stars, is rewarded so much more and is so much more popular.
Yes, people like her music, but that isn’t the question, which is why do people like her music?
Why are Israel and Palestine fighting?
“They don’t like each other.”
Phew, case solved, now you don’t have to learn anything new and you understand nothing more than you did before.
live feed of the goalposts being moved:
what makes taylor swift so popular? (post title)
what explains all of taylor swift’s awards? (your first comment in this thread)
that isn’t the question, which is why do people like her music? (this comment)
idk what to say buddy lol.
I wish people would stop using the goalposts comment when you obviously don’t know what it means.
Let’s look at these three questions.
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What are the mechanisms that explain Taylor Swift’s popularity?
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What are the mechanisms that explain Taylor Swift’s recognized popularity?
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What are the mechanisms that explain Taylor Swift’s recognized musical popularity?
Pretty on message.
If you look at the threads of this post, you’ll find the most people recognize that and are contributing to the answer.
someone provides their answer to number #1 and you dismissed it without evidence. i find this gross and in bad faith; this is all im pointing out. 👍
Do you want to provide any evidence for that? I’ve answered tons of people who have answered the first question, and for the most part we’ve had engaging conversations and many of them have contributed to the overall answer.
And that’s not all you’re pointing out. You repeatedly are inaccurately attacking the merits of my questions or comments rather than responding to the questions or comments.
If you consistently encounter a lot of “bad faith” arguments to your comments that are provably in good faith, you should probably look a little closer to home for where those bad faith arguments lie.
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It shows on the profile page in Boost but yeah you’re right, on the web UI it’s not a thing.
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Got me!
As someone who doesn’t really follow any sort of pop media or celebrities, I’ve often heard her songs around on the radio somewhere but just as often have I heard some other over produced pop singer and couldn’t have told you if it was Swift or not.
That’s why it’s so baffling how she’s received so many awards and constantly breaks records. Like dozens of awards. Why?
the music industry has never really been for the listeners.
You could ask this question about any popular artist for the last 70 years, probably longer, why The Beatles, why Elvis Presley, why Michael Jackson, why Madonna?
Hype mainly.
The Beatles had a huge and demonstrable effect on a large portion of rock n roll music. I’m not their biggest fan in any way, but you can literally see how they helped initiate a huge change in popular music in their era if you look at what came before them and what came after. It’s pretty disingenuous to claim it was mainly only hype.
In retrospect, yes. They became hugely popular and that influenced lots of artists that came after them. Was “Love Me Do” really that groundbreaking? How about “Twist and Shout”?
So on your mind every artist is equally appealing and equally talented? What a confusingly random thought to assert as fact.
No, that’s not what I meant at all. I’m saying that there are equally talented artists as the really big, well known ones and the reasons they weren’t as big is possibly down to not being in the right place at the right time.
Hmm ok. Maybe I was just sleepy. If I thought you meant that I would’ve been in full agreement
The Beatles Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson all seem unique in several salient ways that explain their success, Madonna at least in fashion.
And all of those artists were at the beginning of one movement or another, Taylor’s right in the middle of popular pop.
I can’t think of anything comparably unique about Taylor Swift, though I don’t know much about her, hence the curiosity.
In hindsight possibly. I’m only old enough to comment on Michael Jackson and Madonna but at the time their music wasn’t that unique. Michael Jackson absolutely pushed the boundaries with his music videos. Madonna played up to controversy. That’s how they built their audiences.
Overpromotion
Wait i thought she was the author of Harry Potter, not a singer…
Are you a little girl. ?
It would much easier to understand if you’re a little girl.
Are you a woman that’s went through a lot of break ups? I’m assuming no otherwise you’d already know the answer.
Most people aren’t.
Correct. Is that mostly her song catalog, songs about breakups?
I’m not super familiar with it, but she’s helped a lot of women through heartbreak. That does a lot for your popularity. With at times it being a super catchy tune. Over and over and over. She’s not new at all.
Cause shes hot and i like her voice. I like her pop stuff better than her country though. There are a few of her country songs i like but very few compared to her pop stuff.
I hate that how hot she is or isn’t has any bearing on her music’s popularity.
Male artists have certainly used sex appeal to sell records and tickets without much issue, I can’t see why it would be any different if Swift does it.
Cool.
It’s probably closer to why people like trump only the swifties are probably less inclined to kill people that don’t like Taylor swift.
Or people really found her whiny breakup song phase relatable. That’s probably what got the ball rolling. Then it’s just like the Beatles or something but with objectively worse music.
I really don’t like any of her songs that I have heard. To be fair I can’t recall ever liking any songs that were ever on the radio during the time I have been alive at least.
It’s worth noting that of her top played songs in Spotify, I think maybe only one of them was on the radio. Her two pandemic albums Evermore and Folklore do not get radio time at all, I don’t recall hearing much on the radio from her albums Lover or Reputation either, but probably some.
I think a lot of times people heard shake it off or similar when it was played all the time and think that is representative.
objectively
In their time, the Beatles also weren’t considered very good by the non-fans. Also, subjectively, I don’t think “love me do” is a great song. I don’t think Taylor Swift writes really bad songs, I’m just not into the music/ singing style.
This is a great cover though. And, objectively, it shows her song writing is fine.
Because she’s not only good at producing the right music, she’s good at business and has the right connections to launch them.
Thanks, I’m very curious about this. What are some salient examples of her business prowess?
My favorite…
Guy owns her masters.
Taylor says “can I buy my master’s?”
Guy says “nope”
Taylor says “ok” then then re-records all of those albums again in a complete “fuck you”
Yeah, that is about as pop-boss as it gets, especially for someone who doesn’t need to do it.
