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“Apple CEO Tim Cook plans to donate $1 million to Donald Trump’s inauguration fund, reports Axios. The donation will be a personal donation directly from Cook rather than a donation from Apple”
I’ll defend Apple as being the least shitty of the big tech giants but I can’t defend this.
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This isn’t even remotely surprising. Apple has been a shitty company for well over a decade.
And before it wasn’t?
They’re being shaken down. Same as Mark Zuckerberg being summoned to a meeting with Trump and the next day paying $1m to the same fund.
I’m betting these meetings went something like, “You don’t want a president as an enemy, do you? Cough up.”
And don’t think of it as a tax on the rich - it’s not going towards the benefit of the American people. It’s extortion.
It’s insane that this is even legal.
I’m certain it’s not - but it doesn’t matter. Trump has proved that he is beyond the law in every way.
Clinton got impeached for lying and it ruined his credibility. Trump lies all the time and gets re-elected, but has no credibility to ruin.
Ohh shocking!! A US company CEO donated to the inagural fund of the new president elected by the people (idiots).
This country makes me sick to my stomach. What a fucking joke.
If you can find a way: get out.
For everyone else, you have my sincere sympathy.
And go where? Where in the world is safe right now? I thought about living in the Philippines with my family, but China is probably waging war soon. Europe? With the way America is headed and the war is going? Let’s assume Ukraine wins: Europe is out of gas and will militarize and right wing governments are rising with German nationalism leading the battle drums, Ukraine gonna be in an economic, Russia is gonna be subservient and dependent on China.
That leaves countries with metropolises that are suffering from westerners gentrifying their neighborhoods with the USD being strong in these places. We are really going to make the poor in other nations pay the price for our government’s doing?
Do you mean safe or safer than the U.S.? Because you can’t be guaranteed of absolute safety anywhere. If you’re queer or brown, there are a lot of countries where you’ll be safer than the U.S.
Fair point. If you are in immediate danger then yeah, not gonna argue. But if you are able to stay and do something, that should be preferable.
I am brown (Filipino). I won’t be leaving.
All these Billionaires PAYING Trump MILLIONS of Dollars is PROOF he CANT be Bought!
None of these companies would touch Trump with a 10 foot pole in the situation wasn’t so dire. But he is the next president, and he is known to respond to stuff like this. Bend knee, kiss his ass and carry a huge wad of cash. This is just the cost of doing business, and even if a vocal minority cries out most people still buy iPhones, Teslas and shop at Amazon and Wal-Mart.
It’s almost like capitalism is a terrible idea.
I struggle to call this capitalism. It’s so twisted and corrupt it doesn’t resemble what it started out as.
lol I interpret this as sarcasm, as with many of your other comments around Lemmy. If they are so, I think they’re funny and so far I agree with what you actually value, democracy. However, it took me some time to understand your sarcasm. This might be just me, but I wonder if your comments could be subjected to Poe’s Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe’s_law). Do you think it’s impossible that they could be?
I got the joke right away, I don’t think there’s any problem with it.
The thing is, no matter how obvious a contradiction is, far-right folks won’t understand any of it, because they’re so dumb. You cannot give them even the most basic, easily digestible facts and explanations, because even that requires a brain, which they don’t have.
So I think, these kind of jokes are perfectly fine for our entertainment, and no amount of facts and information will ever convince the dumbest of the people.
Fair points:
- I see how that joke can be fine in the sense that, if everyone in the group shares values, there is no need to consider how a staunch Trump supporter will respond to the joke. After all, I think there are very few staunch Trump supporters reading this.
- I also see that it can be very hard to convince people to reconsider tightly-held beliefs, or at the very least gain perspective on them. It sounds like you do not believe changing perspectives is even possible, that no dialogue can ever be worthwhile or useful.
I see you appreciate facts and information, the scientific process and the institutions that enable it. We have that in common. That’s why, ironically, I’ll start with anecdotal facts and then move on to more robust and generalizable findings. Do you know about my friend who went from defending “one dollar, one vote” (a couple of years ago) to explaining how the lack of third spaces is associated with inequality (a couple of weeks ago)? I don’t expect you to at all, so do you know Contrapoints’ impact on radicalized people who reach out to her (https://www.vice.com/en/article/contrapoints-interview-2019-natalie-wynn/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nrz4-FZx6k)?
These may sound like cherry-picked examples, but there’s actually evidence of massive shifts in people’s political views: the World Value Survey. Do you know how world values have changed ever since the WVS started (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIXdRVe92gg)?
In the face of the WVS shifts, it may seem like value changes only occur when material conditions allow for it, but there’s evidence within the WVS literature (check out the variance that explains democratic values, in particular how material conditions most explained democratic values in the past but today connectivity most explains it) that material conditions are not as important. However, we can also look at another set of scientific literature that shows that the way that things are presented can lead to changes in political attitudes. Do you know about the moral reframing literature? I’m sorry for the paywall https://doi.org/10.1111/spc3.12501 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/337861541_Moral_reframing_A_technique_for_effective_and_persuasive_communication_across_political_divides
Thank you for showing me this valuable piece of information. No, I haven’t seen these before.
Until now, I’m 100% confident that it’s impossible to convince someone on the far-right of anything that’s against their views, because I’m from a country that is 15 years ahead of the US on this tragic path into the dark future far away from common sense, thus I have a somewhat clear prediction for the general mental state of the people in the coming decades, which likely cannot be reversed in a century.
Yet, I’m thinking quite often, what I could do as an individual to at least somewhat better the situation in this miserable world. And so far all my ideas are based on withdrawal of content (much like how you take drugs away from a junkie) instead of adding arguments, which is obviously hard to pull off on a large scale.
Not that I could do anything though. Today you need to be rich to achieve something.
Nonetheless, maybe this is the missing piece to the puzzle. I’m considering to pay those extra bucks for that publication, also Welzel’s book; they look promising. So thanks again for sharing.
It really is a class war, not a culture war.
Always has been.
Imagine being a woman working for Apple and having a CEO who funds a rapist.
It’s absolutely wild how the first time around, everyone left of center was against Trump, even if it was only posturing. This time around, he’s even worse and the same people are literally supporting him.
Imagine being an openly gay CEO who funds a party who hates gays
They don’t hate gays, they hate honesty, and also having social and legal limitations for various divergent traits allows blackmail and defamation.
They don’t hate gays
Yeah, they only cheer on the concept of queer genocide and talk about how queer people groom children to support the idea.
But they don’t hate them. Jesus loves them after all.
They hate poor gays
No, they hate all gay people. They are just lower on the list right now, but they are definitely there.
First they came for…
And open guys, and gays suffering for our sexuality. None of them visited Roy Cohn as he died of AIDS. Tim Cook may get spared from raids at first, but if it goes as bad as we fear he’s going to have nobody willing to defend him
The guy clears 2 billions in net worth. There are plenty of people who are willing to defend him for a piece of that.
least shitty
Wat!?
They’re the only one selling physical products as their main business so they can afford to give you marginally better privacy and UX than say, Google, who’s built their business on tying tracking and advertising into their open source products like Chromium and Android.
Better UX what
It’s a very low bar
I’ll defend Apple as being the least shitty of the big tech giants but I can’t defend this.
You can defend settler colonialism?
Gross. Sick of rich assholes enabling the fascist.
He’s totally not doing it to get Trumpf to like him. He’s gonna get his own imaginary political role.
It’s less than .05% of his worth. It’s like us dropping pocket change in the Red Cross bucket and he’ll make more than that in profit from changes the bribe paid for from the great cheetoh.
Didn’t trump call him Tim Apple?
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Yeah, as much as I hate Steve Jobs, he would have given Trump the finger on camera back in 2016 had he been alive.
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Scalia was weird as fuck and you could never predict what side of things he would come down on. So sort of like Steve Jobs, I guess. He was far-right, but he also said stuff like the time he said that orgies should be encouraged because they relieve social tension.
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The man’s got a point there. Hard to argue with orgy logic.
I don’t know, I think once you got that many people together, I’d get performance anxiety.
It really goes to show what kind of times we’re living in when Steve Jobbs is the limbo bar to measure good ethics that everyone today is clearing under.
It’s not just LGBTQ+ folks. Anyone not male, straight, white, christian, republican or natural born is in the firing line.
I think the point is that Tim Apple is all of these things (so he need not care) except straight.
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Fuck Tim Apple, but please do not ever utter the phrase “bad gay” again.
