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Ban all vehicles over 5000lbs to start without a specialized license and extremely heavy fees to have them. EVs are dropping in weight daily, ICE vehicles have been increasing in weight to dodge policies. One is a means to an end, the other is a means to profit.
Profit for few vs humanity’s existance… which should we choose?
I’m gonna drag you, (apparently kicking and screaming), back to the approach I suggested: mandating manufacturers produce same-price 100-mile EV equivalents for every ICE vehicle they want to produce. If they want to build a gasoline sedan, they need to make an electric sedan with the same seating, same trunk space, etc. F-350 super duty diesel crewcab pickup? There’s a 100-mile electric version of that as well, at the same or lower price point, or that truck doesn’t get made.
What’s the 100 miles part of it? Do you mean the range only being 100 miles? We will likely have much higher than that, some are scheduled to be 5-600 miles. Really I’d settle for 250 miles.
The Telos Truck is being designed to be able to fit up to 8 people, a configuration for a 4x8’ sheet of plywood, or a 5ft standard bed with 4 doors, and is set for 350 miles.
It’s the length of a mini Cooper, and acquired taste for looks, but it’s kind of neat. 0-60 in 4 seconds and priced at 50k. < I think to expensive, but that’s cheaper than Chevy trailblazer here.
(Insert my kicking and screaming). Haha
You ignored where I laid out that plan, and focused on an unimportant point.
To promote EV adoption and suppress ICE, I would mandate that car manufacturers produce an EV equivalent of every ICE model they produce, at the same price point as the base model ICE vehicle. That EV would need to have a minimum of 100 mile range to qualify as an “equivalent”.
The main problem I’m trying to to solve is the manufacturers jacking up the prices of EVs as soon as the government offers direct incentives for buying them.
This method of addressing this problem basically requires manufacturers to either increase the prices on their ICE models, or drop those ICE models entirely.
Nah I was on board with that part, I was just curious why you limited it to 100 miles so I inquired. Why not say range that equals or better than the ICE equivalent at the same price? As it shouldn’t be a problem. (Although after thinking about it, 250 would probably be better for weight reasons. 600 mile batteries would be a bit large currently.
Because batteries are bulky and extraordinarily heavy, and the general public rarely drives even 100 miles a day. I can plug in my EV every night, or at most of my destinations; I don’t need an EV that can go 2 weeks between charges.
Yeah, unfortunately my work is 52ish miles away. So with charge times on a standard 110 I’m stuck in the need a bit more category. I figure at 250 miles id be able to charge it on a 110 and if I ever have other trips to make it wouldn’t be an issue. But with your policy of matching EV to ice productlines I imagine most manufacturers wouldn’t want to intentionally sabotage a product they are already having to make, so I’m sure they would make something that fit people stuck in long driving situations like mine.
Remember: I’m not eliminating cars over 5000 pounds, because there is plenty of actual need for large vehicles.
When I talk about a 100 mile range, you need to be thinking about the battery pack needed for a 15-passenger van, or a 1-ton pickup. Manufacturers don’t currently produce EVs in those classes. If they want to keep producing large gasoline and diesel vehicles like these, they need to add a 100-mile EV version at the same price point.