I’ve been on lemmy for over a year now, and I just realized I used to read all those HackerNews articles + their comments, I haven’t done that in probably 6 months because the discussion here has gotten much better. What’s changed for you with Lemmy over the last year?
Not enough jeans. :(
Real answer: there’s been an uptick in the amount of content lately, which is great. I’ve also unfortunately noticed an uptick in belligerent comments, which often detracts from the conversations taking place.
My participation has dropped a lot compared to when I only just joined. There is only so much us centric doomer content I can stomach, and Lemmy is so extremely political that it is impossible to just browse cat memes and have a good time. So I spend less time here I suppose.
I almost never see political content or cat memes. I think your experience comes down to your subscription list.
I just started filtering all of it
This is the way. I am happy to hear you are taking control of your lemmy experience.
It’s so much better! Filter, report, stand up, and block. I’m so done with people being unnecessarily rude and I immediately stop contact with them here. If it’s me I try to apologize. All that garbage should stay on reddit
I just block those that post that stuff. Lemmy is small enough that that works to a sufficient degree 👍 it’s a small group of prolific posters
Well, I’m here now. So there’s that.
You’re welcome. /s
Lemmy is teaching me things by accident.
Most recently; I’ve started learning media literacy and now I can see all the same manufactured consent and narrative shaping that exists in legacy media and social media like Facebook and reddit; but in .world and lemmee too
I will always link Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” when this subject comes up, haha.
Your go to
My goodness, that was a roller coaster. Although I found it lacking in cohesiveness (I’m not sure that the evidence supports the conclusions), it’s certainly a thought-provoking article. Thanks for the link.
No problem!
I wish the .worlders & lemmee’s would open up a book to learn this for themselves.
Of course, there must always be tribalism.
The hard truth is .world and .ee deserve to make their space exactly like reddit and/or facebook if that’s what they want.
They have their space, we have ours. The weekly feud posts at .world are hilarious. Desperate attempts to keep the barn doors closed so no one escapes to the better instances.
These sorts of people eventually show their hand and people will leave on their own. Most recently the Luigi related debacles.
Desperate attempts to keep the barn doors closed so no one escapes to the better instances.
i wonder if this is why .ee rose to prominence in user counts.
Lol
Yea… 🫠
Started to participate in discussion more and pleasantly surprised actual conversations happen and the comment section is not flooded with generic bot shit within minutes.
When I first came here, I was so jaded, with the expectation that every account was a bot or an asshole. Seeing the actual conversation among humans has been nice.
Absolutely. The jadedness coming off of reddit is real. Took me half a year to slowly start participating
Yeah, that’s something I really like about Lemmy. You can have actual conversations. On Reddit, on even an unpopular thread, any comment would be flooded by replies from other people. You couldn’t just talk with one person.
I don’t mind other people joining in, but reddit makes it impossible to do 1-on-1.
On Reddit, on even an unpopular thread, any comment would be flooded by replies from other people.
Lemmy really does give the feel of “early reddit” where it was small enough for real communities, where would recognize regulars and see them in multiple subs.
Agreed. Oftentimes I describe Lemmy as “reddit back in the day” whenever someone asks me wtf is Lemmy.
All of the “a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide” spammers mysteriously disappeared
Wonder why? /s
Same reason people aren’t still discussing who will win Euro '24
You shitlibs are still whining that leftists didn’t want to vote for your genocidal ghoul?
The liberals are desperate to blame anything and everything they can to justify not changing a single damn thing about the democratic party.
Because they know the blue conservatives won’t change. Their donors will not allow it.
“No, it’s the voters who are wrong”
The election ended, the Leftists are still here. What were you expecting to happen?
I’m still here posting about the flaws of the voting system that gives us two shit options to choose from.
Are you working to replace First past the post voting in your state? Now is that so venerated time to push for these changes at the state and local level.
Don’t you care that your country men/women/and more are under represented by their options at the polls?
Upset over 3rd party voters? Best get back to passing electoral reform in your state then.
You wouldn’t tell people how to vote and then do nothing to fix the voting system that is the source of the problem would you?
Is this a joke? They didn’t leave, the election cycle did.
I will
NEVER
log off!
I mean, the vote happened and she’s not running anymore, sooooooo not really a reason for them to keep talking about that issue?
Also, I remember a couple usernames from some of the most vocal and I just went and looked and it’s not like they up and deleted their accounts or stopped using Lemmy. They’re still active, so they didn’t “disappear.”
@queermunist@lemmy.ml was pretty loud about that opinion and they’re still here, for example.
I know reddit being flooded with bots for 10 years has made y’all jaded but real people with real opinions that differ from ours shockingly still exist.
0·6 months agothey’re still here
Her pronouns are she/her
Idk if you maybe missed the news but the election ended. Like awhile ago.
I see a lot less but muh Media Bias/Fact Check now than I did a year ago.
Election spam which filled the front page is mostly gone.
In my view, Lemmy ecospace became a lot more dark. People are snarkier, less prone to engage in polite conversation and divergent opinions get hounded.
I also sense an increased tendency for doom and gloom. Nihilism is on the rise, as well.
That’s interesting because for me it’s the opposite, or maybe I just don’t notice it anymore. But when I first joined people were almost always hostile to one another. I feel like that’s not the case anymore.
I see that too recently. I just call them out, report, and block.
Still better than Reddit, where a divergent opinion is grounds for a permaban.
Not saying that makes it ok though, it still sucks, just a little less.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah… and Happy New Year!
Would you say the doom and gloom is Lemmy specific, or more of a global thing, given the state of life ATM?
It’s definitely not just a Lemmy thing just any site that grows a user base.
I kind off think of it like the difference between talking to random people at a local hobby space vs a national convention. Sure you’re gonna still find people with shared interests but you got more people coming in with an agenda or chip on their shoulder, Or just general trolls who target larger groups because it’s more people to get a rise out of.
But you’d have to consult some sociologist or someone for a in-depth factual answer, I’ve just been on a lot of random sites/forums over the years.
Honestly Lemmy has handled it’s growth a lot better than most places online I’ve seen. I’d say people on here are pretty raw but not actively spiteful (mostly), which I very much vibe with.
Agree. The size of the community seems to correlate with the number of trolls, which can quickly change the tone of a platform. Trolls are more active, outspoken, and literally feed on negativity.
Great point.
“Doomers sure love doom scrolling”
does nothing about the amount of doom in the world
I’m only on Lemmy. Can’t speak for other places. On my day to day life, people are concerned with living their lives.
Among American users, this probably has a lot to do with the recent election.
I can’t see a flag near the nick, so I just try to treat everyone with respect.
It’s actually had content for me now
Tremondous change!!! A year ago I didn’t know about it and now I do!
Just got banned from !linuxsucks, got a feeling that’s nothing uncommon though, power tripping mod situation
Lol I didn’t even know this community existed. To be fair their description even states that moderation is heavy handed.
Edit: Pretty sure that’s a troll community or something? Every single post there is kinda crap and is being downvoted.
I’ve seen it from time to time, and after the initial “…Why…?” it had me wondering if it was trying to be some sort of Lemmy counterculture. Parody makes more sense, but if it’s sincere I just sort of feel bad.
Yeah, unfortunately it is, ended up blocking it now because if I can’t comment with my own experience with Linux when I relate to a meme. (even if the “meme” is followed by half-truths) Then its just a guy ranting about how Linux sucks and power tripping when someone comments.
It’s run by and for an absolute crank.
That guy is Poe’s law, embodied. Absolutely everyone thinks it’s a joke… at first.
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Starting to see different people reposting stuff on similar communities, which reminds me a lot of that other site. Not a huge fan.
I’ve also started noticing people downvoting instead of engaging when they disagree with something as well, which is frustrating.
Hey dude, I just wanted to let you know there is an option in your settings so you don’t see upvotes or downvotes.
Lemmy (AFAIK) doesn’t even show you your total upvotes (karma… whatever it’s called) by default either. None of these imaginary points fucking matter.
So why don’t you do yourself a favor and uncheck these boxes and not give a fuck what others think about your comment.
I know I have.
(Lemmy is rad as fuck)
As for the reposting content, are you referring to cross posting? I’ve noticed people doing it to my posts.
I think it’s a good thing as maybe some people have lemmy.ml defederated and I still want people who use lemmy to have content so they stay and grow the federation.
Again, the points are made up and the updoots don’t matter. Peace.
Probably a solid idea - thanks for the suggestion.
Not sure how well it will work with my mobile app but I will look into it!
It’s not great, but at least downvotes barely affect anything other than visibility of top level comments on popular posts, and are easy to hide. Better that than people disagreeing using lazy insults and tired truisms.
I often think the place would be better with no downvotes.
If you think a post/comment is good, then upvote. If you think a post/comment is bad, then either get over it and move on or grow a pair and say why.
The freedom of expression means that you have to read/hear/see things that you might not like every now and again, but I’d much rather that than end up in another echo chamber.
Hexbear.net and a few other instances disable downvoting for similar reasons you describe.
From what I’ve heard, there are instances that don’t have downvotes. People should be able to vote how they want. Could you imagine… wanting to tell people how they can vote? I certainly cant.
I’m fine with seeing things I don’t like or agree with if it is a fully formed thought, but I still think downvotes are a nice trap for lazy inarticulate people to feel like they are doing the equivalent of dropping a low effort flame comment while actually doing basically nothing. I have display of vote scores disabled and don’t have to know or think about the approval of people who are only voting, which is nice. If they had something to say that isn’t already fully communicated by the downvote button, maybe they would say it instead despite downvoting being an option.
Yep, downvotes are usually an “I don’t know how to counter what you’re saying but I don’t like it” button.
But what I’m saying is, they are good because they likely deter toxic thoughtless comments.
They also deter good comments that go against the grain for an instance. Labeling comments as “toxic” even if they are fine but controversial isn’t good. Such toxic comments can be reported and removed anyways.
I often think the place would be better with no downvotes.
I agree. Hate to mention the R-place, but some of the subs there that only allow upvotes are a generally more positive place.
When your post is downvoted, you’re sometimes left wondering why, and question yourself. That can lead to less engagement. Same can happen for disagreements of course, but at least then it’s clear what the problem is.
Hexbear.net is nice for this.
Definitely seeing some people doing mass downvotes. By that, I mean they disagree so much with a person’s post that they then downvote other, unrelated posts by the same person.
I suspect I have a bit of an “anti-fan club” these days, I’ll have the sole downvote in threads for a benign opinion that goes along with the rest of the comments, but I don’t pay it any mind.
Lemmy is my only social media interaction these days, the content has improved, and the communities feel more distinct than they did a year ago. That could just be me getting up to speed though.
It was a nice surprise finding out that the left wing instances on here are actually pretty chill, way more so than on Reddit these days.
I peaked into r/communism and it’s genuinely awful. Full of the most toxic people I have seen in the supposedly “Marxist” communities. Surprisingly Lemmy is way more chill than Reddit.
