Having tried all three, its a stark difference in how much more social Lemmy is comparatively. Its not even close. Almost all posts I’ve encountered on lemmy have interaction; whereas, more often than not, posts on the other two platforms have no interaction. Wonder what the driving factor is behind this difference?
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The fuck is Nostr? I can’t keep up.
Nostr is another fediverse like social media platform that the founder of bluesky created after he realized he had made another mistake like he did in creating twitter.
I know, right? It was very hard for me to grasp the Fediverse when i first heard about it. Now, it seems the protocol is being tapped into from a few different directions, so these new platforms may just be starting to make an appearance.
shit posters keeping lemmy/mbin alive.
Doesn’t mbin federate with Mastodon? I’ve been thinking about moving to an mbin server for that reason…
I assume because people follow topics on lemmy, unlike microblogging where people have to follow each other to interact (one-to-many vs one-to-one). So it’s easier to interact with many people that you don’t necessarily had to be following prior, which increases the chances of interacting with more people.
you can follow hashtags. I follow #opensource and a few other interests and I’ve found some interesting stuff you don’t generally see in other places. but yes, the format is completely different and I find lemmy allows for better discussion than Mastodon.
you can follow hashtags.
Interesting. Perhaps I should give mastodon another go.
Yeah Mastodon seems way less about discussion and way more about surfacing cool shit you wouldn’t otherwise see.
Concur. Love how lemmings bundle up and socialize!
It is fascinating because of how small (relatively) the community is on Lemmy.
I’ve never heard of Nostr but Mastodon is a twitter clone and I don’t find that style of website suits discussion well since you subscribe to accounts rather than communities.
You follow hashtags. It’s what I do and it’s been a good experience so far.
It’s about the same as on Lemmy engagement-wise.
It’s an interesting dynamic!
I find myself talking more on lemmy as others say because it’s easier/made for talking about topics. Mastodon and other fedi services center around following the account that made a thing rather than the thing(s) themselves. And that’s fine, both have their place.
I think the other aspect is the easy to follow discussion threads. IMO it’s the cleanest way to show and follow branching discussions.
I’ve never understood what twitter style websites are actually for. They seem to have a tiny niche of celebrities and known personalities making a statement with no reasonable conversation stemming from it.
I don’t understand how that structure was once one of the largest social media platforms in the first place.
the content is github
a distribution / marketing site is pypi
you are interacting with technologists.
The content already exists. And are interacting around that content. Rather than generating more and more content forever in a loop leading to nothing but more noise.
And you have direct access to these people! If a reasonable conversation is lacking it’s cuz you are not bringing the party to the bar.
You are the star that makes the conversation happen.
So dial up a person 100x smarter than you. And find something to ask them.
Like a ChatGPT but will actual intelligence and passion at the other end.
In my experience Twitter was for modern Seinfeld jokes, mastodon is for monsterdon Sundays at 9pm et, and Lemmy is for commenting on Internet stuff.
Hey, I don’t come into your house and insult you by calling you social media! /s
I think, much like HN or early web forums, we’re below the population level where personal attacks get unmanageable. On Reddit voicing a dissenting opinion would always get you dog piled and that makes people defensive and boring as shit.
People here are generally (some exceptions being pro life/choice which is a deeply toxic topic at this point and Gaza which has emotions extremely high) arguing in good faith and even if they’re rough initially a lot of times I’ve appreciated back and forth threads since, even if there’s still a disagreement, most people will genuinely work to remove stupid misunderstandings and try and understand who they’re talking to.
Additionally, the mods on most communities are awesome and focus specifically on removing things like personal attacks without getting heavy handed in interventions.
Mastodon & others are microblogging (aka shitpost) platforms, while lemmy lets you ask questions in posts that will persist (not get flooded under a megaton of shitpost, hentai) and get answers.
On on mastodon what’s important is who you are (who you know, who you can interact with), on lemmy your post’s content is more important.
On Mastodon, follow and interact with people you admire, not content.
Go to pypi look for packages you admire, find their maintainers, and get chatting with them. Coders make themselves available on mastodon. Not lemmy. Not twitter. Email is passe.
Do a survey. Look up 20 random packages you admire on pypi. What contact info do they provide? These packages must be actively maintained. Otherwise understand if dinosaurs in the past communicated thru mostly hand gestures and grunting.
Published coders are the richest resource of talent in the history of mankind.
Lemmy … asking questions?! Is that it?
There is more to interacting and collaboration than hit and run knowledge sharing.
I still use Mastodon — as a place to dump intrusive thoughts more than anything — but there is this huge tension between people who want to chat with randoms, people who only want to chat with friends, and people who want to use it purely as a broadcast medium. The protocol/convention doesn’t really allow for managing this issue, which is a shame, but I have come to the conclusion that microblogging is just kind of cursed as a medium. It’s fundamentally all about building a personal brand, and if you have no social capital you are shit out of luck. And if you have too much, well, enter the reply guys.
Lemmy/the Reddit model on the other hand strikes a good balance between anonymity and being able to vet odd characters. Different people want different things ofc, and that’s fine, but I find I have more fruitful conversations here than on Mastodon.
Name three people on Mastodon you follow and why do you admire them
Author. Three time Hugo Award winner.
Invented Markdown
You already know who this guy is. As far as I can tell he’s either a leftist or pretty damn close to being one, and I would bet money on him not being a horrible person.
Has anyone else never even heard of nostr
nostr is yet another twitter, but for “anti censorship” folk, such as cryptobros and “freeze peach absolutists”. Also has some crypto integration that lets it have shops and even a tiktok video thingy.
Huh. My experience with Nostr is essentially similar with fediverse. As it was decentralized, everything is depends on each instance and which kind of people you follow.
Not everyone on Nostr are everything you just said. Some people are literally using it the same way as Mastodon. Just making friend and talking about random hobbies.
I have, but pretty much have figured out its for crypto bros who don’t want people telling them not to shill their crypto shit, or fucking fascists who don’t like people being able to just… turn them off, for being fascists.
There is no block feature? What the hell.
Yes, and its activitypub bridge Mostr.
Never heard of Mostr either icl
Microblog… I just don’t care about other people that much. Specific topics are more engaging and interesting.
Then to get something out the opportunities the universe is gifting you, all you have to do is turn on that empathy switch and adjust the level up to max.
The issue is all in your head.
You are surrounded by giants, but you don’t notice or care.
Force yourself to care.
Find someone tomorrow and magically decide they are now the most important person in your universe moving forward. And you want to keep in touch with them regularly. And you find what they are up to thrilling.
Then type in this url
This will be enough to fill your entire lifetime and then some.
Sorry, what?
i care about other people, specifically coders. They are my rock stars. And that’s who i want to keep in touch with.
On mastodon, if have something up your sleeve others want to have access to you. I get access to certified, cuz whats that, geniuses. They have the repos, source code, and unittests to prove it!
On lemmy, not so much.
Or riddle me this, how to build relationships on lemmy?
You don’t. I head back to Reddit personals for that.
I do have and use Mastodon. But more and more I keep thinking that traditional blogs + rss are a better fit for me.
What’s the diff? I have a web site that functions like a traditional blog, offers RSS, but it’s an ActivityPub application that participates in the Fediverse. Doesn’t that describe every Mastodon-alike?
Longer posts. More control over formating. Easier to post more types of media.
And maybe it’s less of a “social” media, and more of a “personal” project.
Maybe it’s 90s nostalgia talking, but I miss those cool personal webpages.
The thing about Mastodon is that you have to really heavily curate.
On Forum Blogs, like here, if you go to All, you will see articles, questions, images, and communities.
On Micro Blogs, like Mastodon, if you go to all you will see articles, but the rest will mostly be international thoughts of the day, some of which may be questions, non-sequitors, and images.
Not so much the communities, by default.
That doesn’t mean that Mastodon/the like can’t, you just have to curate it a bit more. I followed #Bloomscrolling and it brings tons of nature in my feed, it’s lovely. But if you follow like, @GamingFeed it’s just reposted content that looks for keywords – my Helldivers 2 posts were being promoted but also random articles and posts from others. Somewhat useful for finding articles, but hollow because it’s just a bot I’m certain.
I also find that while there are communities on mastodon, they’re pretty niche so you end up limited to roughly the same things here, tech either hardware or software, gaming or relatives like figures, nature, or politics (though I’ve found Mastodon is fairly less political on a default account. Wasn’t using it much though so I may have missed it entirely).
Meanwhile on Lemmy and the like, you pretty much just get shown communities. We all know ich_el or whatever that German meme one is, we all have passed by 196, that sort of thing doesn’t appear on Mastodon so much.
That said, I do see mastodon accounts commenting on posts on Lemmy, so it’s also possible to mix them. I will say, generally the mastodon comments do not go into as much thoughtful detail in response on these articles, but that could very well be an instance limitation (some have 40k characters, some have 500-2000).
So there are some fairly large differences and while they can technically accomplish the same thing, there can a bit of a cultural difference between the two formats. And as you probably know, default instances also can change this experience on both – Solarpunk.moe is awesome and well moderated and is focused on solarpunk, mastodon.social is pretty large and chaotic. Lemmy is the same way, of course, slrpnk.net is fairly small compared to the major instances and the home feed reflects that
I don’t know but that image looks sick
It is, right? I found it here.
Lemmy is discussion focused, the bulk of content is the comments guided by posts. Mastadon/nostr are about microblogging, the posts are the focus of content, not the comments.
you are missing out. Which is much worse than just being wrong.
The focus of mastodon is on the people, not the comments.
Deeply care about the other person and then you’ll be interacting with someone you admire
The comments are topics they find interesting and want to share.
With coders, when they post something, is usually mostly signal.
Wondering if it’s possible to put this observation into number…
That would be neat, some quantitative data comparing comments / views or the such per post, etc… I’m sure its possible. Maybe someone can make this happen? 🧐
Mastodon right now is essentially macroblog and/or microblog. Entirely designer for different purpose than Lemmy.
Any group-based social media will have higher possibility of interaction due to easier way to find similar interest, whether Lemmy, Reddit, Facebook Group, Misskey Group, even traditional self-host forum.
