As a British lad, I’ve been keeping tabs on the news about this guy and the wide support he’s getting.

With so much support, surely the public will get him out of jail just to spite the bastard rich kids and their CEO baron fathers?

The Man who was shot allowed a massive corporation to dangle its strings over people’s lives, medication being pulled away which is horrifying to me who uses the NHS as my primary medical service for hearing.

What do you think? Will Luigi “The CEO Reaper” Mangione ever get out of prison?

  • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
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    If you’re claiming this guy (a human being with a family, and friends, and children) “murdered” people, you are either delusional or (more likely) twisting logic to breaking point in order to justify your own advocacy of cold-blooded murder.

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      Just because there’s a few steps between your decision and someone’s death doesn’t mean your decision didn’t cause their death.

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        It’s murder if it’s against the law. If you think whatever the CEO did should be against the law, maybe you should work on that instead.

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          Morally it’s murder either way. Just because you found a legal loophole doesn’t make it not murder morally. There tons of actions that are legal but are morally reprehensible.

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            There tons of actions that are legal but are morally reprehensible

            Of course. The problem is that morality is subjective, which is why we have laws instead of anyone being allowed to kill whomever they consider morally reprehensible.

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        Better hope nobody starts making such complex calculations about you and deciding that it’s therefore time for you to be shot dead in the street.

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          It’s not a complex calculation. He regularly traded other people’s lives for his own money.

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          The thing is, unlike that shithead CEO, I presume, neither of us have actually made decisions to kill masses of people so that we can make ourselves so rich that getting 100k every day for 30 years wouldn’t reach their wealth.

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            You make it sound so simple. It’s not. It’s complex. This guy was a cog in a system that we are all part of, that we are all responsible for. To blame him personally is transparent scapegoating. To gun him down while he walks in the street is, well, what it is: blatant, inexcusable, first-degree murder. Deep down, I’m sure you know that all this is true.

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              Cog? The guy was the CEO of the insurance company with the highest denial rates in the industry. He wasn’t subject to this system he was actively designing and lobbying for it.

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                He was maximizing value for the shareholders of his company. That’s what happens in capitalism.

                If you’re going to analyze the moral balance sheet of every private company then you’re going to need to be more consistent. Any major oil company will surely account for far more damage to people (not to mention other creatures) than this health insurer. Do all their CEOs deserve extrajudicial capital punishment too?

                What about you personally? What are the wider effects of your personal choices of diet, for example, or mobility? Not great, I’d guess. Perhaps you don’t merit a bullet, but maybe some prison time is warranted?

                Yes. He was a cog, I am one and so are you.

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                  Lives are more important than shareholder value and no feduciary lawsuit would ever rule otherwise.

                  Yes I think extra-judicial punishment is a fitting end when judicial punishment fails to even start. Again, what’s legal and what’s moral are not the same. Luigi took one life sure, but how many lives do you think will be saved because insurance executives are a little more scared of looking like murderes to their customers? Hundreds? Thousands?

                  If I’m making decisions that directly lead to the death of my customers in exchange for monetary gain then yes please lock me up.

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                    Lives are more important than shareholder value and no feduciary lawsuit would ever rule otherwise.

                    Indeed. That’s why murder is illegal, not to mention a moral abomination. I didn’t read the rest of your comment.