Considering to buy one for a family member.

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    7 months ago

    Yes. I switched to vaping after smoking a pack a day for ten years. Then in about a year I was able to winnow my usage down and quit vaping too.

    I had tried many times to quit before that. Have not smoked in 13 years now and after about 8 years I stopped liking the smell.

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    Vaping is safer than cigarettes, it’s still bad and we don’t know how bad it is long term but it is safer than smoking. It’s better to just stop completely using a stop smoking service to get alternative nicotine products if that’s available. If the person doesn’t want to stop then you’re unlikely to be able to make them however a vape might be able to replace it with something better. Other products to look at are patches, gum, lozenges and inhalators which can be useful in quitting.

    In summary smoking and vaping are both bad but smoking is worse. Better off just quitting if possible, if not go for the vape.

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    Vaping is about as effective as a quitting aid as other nicotine replacement methods but with an as yet undefined long term risk profile.

    Buy them some gum or patches instead.

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      But the gum and patches as additional options. The ritual of putting cig to mouth is incredibly strong, especially if there are social factors in play.

      You can’t make someone quit your way, they have to quit their way.

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        Thankyou, I have been relying on an article I read several years ago, which in my memory was Cochrane also, I may be able to track it down. Turns out I’m out of date on that stat.

        I stand by it having uncertain long term consequences when other forms of NRT are proven safe.

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          I stand by it having uncertain long term consequences when other forms of NRT are proven safe.

          Still better than smoking.

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      It has the benefit of putting something in your mouth, and preserving the smoking ritual. Which is as important for many smokers as nicotine.
      It’s not without reason that it became so popular in the few years since it went mainstream.

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        7 months ago

        Just offer them a dick to suck on along with the nicotine gum/patches /s

        (For real though, sucking dick can be quite meditative)

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        To be clear it has become popular as a substitute for (or adjunct to) smoking. As a quitting aid it isn’t especially effective, even if slightly more effective than NRT.

        I must say in my practice I haven’t seen anyone quit using vapes, it just becomes a substitute.

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    I quit some 20 years ago without using vape (did it exist back then? Not sure) or any medication. That day, after careful consideration I made up my mind and never looked back.

    And not just because of my health (it was a very important factor) but also because I had realized how much money I was throwing away. Thousands each year.

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    Yep. I moved from smoking to vaping. It became a bit of a hobby but I quit that too after a few years just by lowering the nicotine bit by bit and ended up just not using it when the habit was no longer fuelled by addiction.

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    I’m not a smoker/vaper so my opinion doesn’t really matter here. But from a sober perspective, I believe that switching to vaping CAN be good, as long as you’re willing to follow the rules diligently.

    The biggest problem I can see going down would be that vaping can be more addictive because you can put more nicotine in it. So if you plan on getting one for a family member, make sure they are actually willing to quit. Because there is a possibility that you can make the addiction worse if they have the opportunity to put even more nicotine in their system.

    Once again, this is from an outside perspective, if I’m in the wrong vapers, please let me know.

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      This is a little more complicated because vaping doesn’t get nicotine into your blood as effectively as smoking. So even if the liquid seems like it’s stronger than a cigarette would be, it’s likely not actually getting them more nicotine. If anything too little nicotine is an issue because this could make it harder to switch.

      Smokers (and vapers) also self titrate, meaning they adjust their smoking/vaping habits to get the amount of nicotine they want. So if you had a genuinely stronger vape, they would stop after fewer puffs. Nausea comes pretty quick after too much nicotine too so it’s not pleasant to take too much.

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    Going cold turkey is supposedly not as delicious as it sounds, but it’s probably the best way.

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      There is no best way. What matters is what works and different methods work differently on different people. It’s good to have a multitude of ways.

      As for efficiency it seems that vaping is very efficient.

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    If they want to quit it can be a useful tool that I have seen work for many. If they don’t an e-cig isn’t going to change anything.

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    Vaped for about 7 years after quitting smoking. Switched to 0 nicotine vape fluid and then finally got tired of vaping and just sort of stopped.

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    I did, but I would mix my own fluid; every couple of batches I would half the nicotine content. Eventually it was near-negligible, and perhaps two weeks after that I was doneski

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    Most people I know that used to smoke now vape instead.

    The main reason is not that vapes are great, but that cigarettes cost about £15 a pack.

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    Yes. It is a shame that vapes are disregarded as therapeutics. They are fantastic in that regard.
    Not to say that the fruit flavoured garbage aimed at children is okay; it is not and should be dealt with. However, we should simultaneously not let the tobacco industry deter the medically valid use of vapes for use as an aid with smoking cessation

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      I’m a fully grown adult who very much enjoys fruit flavours in my vape. Please don’t legislate me based on the kids. Make better laws to protect and allow adults to enjoy things.

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        Well at least when they fully ban flavors for us adults, we can drink away our problems with the cotton candy and birthday cake vodka that’s stocked in every liquor store across the country.

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      My son worked for vape wild. His favorite part was talking to people about how to use vapes and custom fluids to quit smoking. Then they had a huge investment from one of the cigarette companies and it all went downhill.