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They say even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time.
Well, good.
I don’t know who chose that headlining image of him pointing (and looking) at the sun, but it’s perfect.
I’m imagining thousands of Americans doing the same and some shooting firearms at the sun too.
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This is one policy I would like to see followed through with.
Literally the only good idea he’s ever had.
He also promised to legalize weed. He said the left would oppose it because it came from him. Then when everyone said yes please. Then we didn’t hear anything else about it.
In 2016 he promised universal Healthcare on accident when describing how he would fix Obamacare. Then we didn’t hear anything else about it.
It’s not even his idea, though. It’s been introduced by Marco Rubio 4 times, starting in 2018.
To be specific, we make it such that the current daylight savings time is the norm.
This has been bugging me of late so I’ll ask here even though FTR I hate that I agree with Trump:
Why don’t we just split the difference and offset by 30 min for the whole year/permanently?
Because compromise makes neither side truly happy
We are already trying to compromise with switch back and forth.
30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
What would be complicated?
Converting times to other timezones would be extra annoying.
It’s already too anoying to deal with.
Splitting the difference would be slightly easier, since it stops changing at arbitrary days of the year.It would still change at arbitrary days, because other countries will still use it.
Uhhh…the rest of the world being 30 minutes + however many hours different?
I personally don’t even care which one, I just want either of them and make it permanent.
Okay, I’ll choose, keep the sun up later. Make the day last till at least 7 PM in the winter. That way I can still see it after work. I don’t give a shit when I’m driving to work.
God no. The math with timezones is painful enough without having to deal with half hour offsets.
Actually, there are some timezones with offsets of half or even quarter hours, but the company where I work in software engineering doesn’t do any business in those timezones, so I’ve never had to deal with that particular brand of madness.
Just get rid of DST. It was never a good idea. “Noon” should mean that the sun is directly overhead (or at least directly overhead east-west-wise if not north-south-wise) and “midnight” should be the midpoint between any two adjacent noons. (Ok, yes, if you live on the extreme eastern or western edge of a timezone, then at noon, the position of the sun may be up to 7.5° off of directly overhead east-west-wise. But yeah.)
For better reasons go here. https://savestandardtime.com/ @SaveStandard@universeodon.com
Just adopt GMT and make time meaningless.
Nah, not GMT. UTC. It’s the more accurate successor, and all computers already use it.
Not to mention, everyone will always know what time you are talking about anywhere in the world, and based on your own experience, you know if it will be during the day or not.
Timezones will no longer matter, making software handling time so much easier.
I support this idea however it will never happen.People are going to want 9 am to be when the sun comes up.
Switching to a different 24 hour clock won’t help. People are use to 10 being when the sun is up and 23 when the night is happening.
Having everyone on one time zone would be the best thing ever.
I understand what you mean, BUT I live in AZ and Im not going to have AZ be both 30 minutes ahead of Cali, 30 minutes behind Utah, and an hour and 30 behind New Mexico. No, you all either fall in line with how time is supposed to work or you can keep doing your shitty Daylight Savings bullshit
I take it AZ doesn’t follow DST? I don’t see how springing ahead 30min instead of the hour next time and being done would cause that much of an issue
Im going to guess youre not from the US? Heres a Time Zone map with the States listed.
I got my own groupings of time zones a little twisted in my head, I didnt think New Mexico was Mountain Time. Regardless, Arizona and Hawaii dont follow DST. Shifting all the US states by 30 minutes for an arbitrary reason doesnt solve anything really and kind of just fucks with global time standards.
The EU parliament had a vote to abolish DST, and it passed. They just forgot to hammer out the details, then COVID and Ukraine happened, so focus shifted.
I hope they’ll pick up the ball again at some point.
Perhaps if the US does it, they’ll follow. And then anywhere else left will do the same and we can be done with this nonsense.
The decision is made. It just takes a while for the 27 countries to get their local legislation up to speed. Many haven’t decided whether they’d want to be on standard time or +1. There’s some business advantage to being on the same timezone as your neighbors.
And then software manufacturers need some heads up to get their shit together.
Fuck, I hate it when he’s right.
I wonder how he’ll make it worse.
He’s going to rename it Trump Time.
Donald Savings Time
He’ll lock it into non-dst to the sun won’t rise until 8:30 in the winter in the middle latitude states.
But dst doesn’t change what the sun does. Just the arbitrary number us humans put on it. Not changing a pattern 2 times a year seems great! Who cares what number it is? I used to love in Minnesota, DST and short winter days, now I live in Arizona, we have plenty of sun and no DST. The sun rises at 5am in Arizona in the summer. But that changes nothing about my day.
about my day.
Unfortunately, you’re not the only person in the world. I’m super happy that your day doesn’t start early enough for that to screw you over, or maybe you like getting up the pitch black, but the majority of Americans would like to have some morning light around Christmas.
DST changes nothing about the amount of light in a day though.
You sound like I’m saying it does, care to explain?
"Americans would like to have morning light around Christmas ". No law or number we call time changes the sunlight. Just the arbitrary number we assign to the time
Hmmm, Tell me you think I’m too stupid to breathe without telling me I’m too stupid to breathe, Nice one!
I Hope to God that you are just trolling at this point, because for you to come to that conclusion from what I said would be seriously embarrassing on your behalf.
When you change the local timezone by an hour the schools end businesses open up an hour later compared to the rise of the Sun.
We’re almost to the equinox, I’m in a middle latitude, as are better than 2/3 of US population. College and high school education systems all seem to start activating around 7:00 a.m. many businesses have their employees commense prep for the day around that time as well. When I drive my kid to school at 7:00 in the morning, it’s just barely light. That means that everyone that gets up by 7:00 in the morning has a little bit of light on the roads this time of year. Lowering the number of groggy early a.m. traffic accidents and providing a little bit of security to the kids waiting around outside the school so they’re not standing around in the the dark.
If you do not kick in DST it doesn’t start getting light until 8:00. New York City, a seriously populated area starts to get light around 7:12 which is in the same range. They’re not going to see the light are dawn until 8:12.
I don’t care for the time to go back and forth so I’d rather we just stick right to DST. Permanently afix EST to -4. And have the rest of the time zones adjusted accordingly.
Right now every business and government entity starts at a certain hour of the day. They do not adjust that time for summer versus winter, because we take care of it in the system. In the case of middle and northern latitudes they start at an earlier hour than they would otherwise because of daylight savings time.
If we just permanently turn off DST, a not insignificant portion of these businesses and government entities (But not a majority) will change their schedules to go later. Mass transportation will go to hell. School bus traffic will collide with business traffic and everything that anyone knew about what time things open and shut would be out the window.
Broken clock.
Twice a year?
Oh, I guess he’s ok then.
Naa wasn’t even his idea. He’s just taking credit for something that’s already been dragging out for years.
Regardless of this cunt, I’ll be happy for no DST
Probably the only good thing he’d ever do, look forward to seeing how they fuck it up.
In other news, RFK has recommended extending this to eliminate both daylight and time.
“Oh, yum! I found a chocolate chip in this bucket of catshit that the ruling class is shoveling down my throat!”
“Oh, yum! I found a chocolate chip in this bucket of catshit that the ruling class is shoveling down my throat!”
I find going on and off DST to be kind of a nuisance, but I don’t have strong feelings about it one way or the other. It seems like the experience varies from place to place, and your region’s distance to the equator is an important factor. The closer you are to the equator, the less necessary DST is.
Historically, some of the regions that went off of DST much prefer it that way, and never looked back. But others regretted opting out of it, and went back to doing it again after everyone complained about it.
I’m sure 47 will make it all about him, whatever he does. And it will probably be a chaotic mess of software patches when they try to implement it. There will be far worse problems to deal with during the Stupid Ages, but throw this one on the pile I guess.
