Yippee Kay Yay… (The only movie that doesn’t depresses me in Xmas)
Why Die Hard is a Christmas Movie:
- there’s a grinch who spoils the party
- “You’re, uh…?” “Clay. Bill Clay.” (checks directory to see if naughty or nice)
- need help? call a plump do-gooder (the cop at the donut shop)
- anxiously expecting a vehicle to land on the roof
- “It’s Christmas, Theo! It’s the time of miracles, so be of good cheer!”
- a good guy climbs down the chimney / elevator shaft
Real reasons:
- Happens during a Christmas party.
- Christmas music in the score.
- B plot involves family mending which is a common trope of Christmas movies.
Also, it’s about a man attending a party in order to fix his family, and he needs to learn to let go of his pride. Classic Christmas movie message.
Jumping on here, because this is often overlooked. If you didn’t know the title of the film, and someone played the first 20 mins to you you’d expect a hallmark film. Going to see the estranged wife, trying to repair a relationship, the awkwardness at the Christmas party.
The whole thing subverts Christmas movie tropes. It’s not just an action movie set at Christmas. It’s a Christmas movie which gets hijacked.
Even the final scene plays on the parody with the ‘snow’ falling, the comedy comeuppance for the nuisance bad guy, and then they kiss and drive off as ‘let it snow’ plays.
If only there were Lemmy gold…
The best I can do is the ol’ feddit.uk handjob. Handshake, I meant handshake!
No and I’m tired of people pretending it is. Now, Gremlins on the other hand.
I’d say they both have equal standing. Diehard couldn’t happen. If it wasn’t for the corporate Christmas party and Grimlin’s because of the poorly thought out, last minute Christmas gift.
Okay, step away from the crack pipe, and nobody gets hurt.
Even Plex agrees:
What We Left Behind made me feel idk. I loved seeing everyone again and some of the background info, but part of me wants to forget i ever saw it.
I don’t know why, i love DS9. My next rewatch would be the 9th.
I was hyped for the documentary and couldn’t wait to get to see it.
Missed Sisko.
Edit: on topic, i think Die Hard is Santa’s favorite christmas movie - but really only the first one.
I’m kinda in the same boat. I think Ira is a really talented creator and producer but he’s got that tried to hard theatre kid vibe at times. Like, love him and don’t doubt his sincerity in the slightest but yeah, bit navel gazey.
I think Die Hard 1 & 2 both qualify for Christmas films but the first one is obviously superior for sure.
Hell yeah! Of course, best Christmas movie ever. Multicasting it over the corporate network since last Monday and won’t kill the process before 2025!
now i’ve got a machine gun ho ho ho!
Yes, along with the dress being blue.
The last thing it seemed like many perceived they had in common was Tiger King.
Now it’s support for murder as a necessary means of change.
This is progress.
Yippee Kai Yay, motherfucker.
Now it’s support for murder as a necessary means of change.
Violence wasn’t necessary, it was the only means available. If those in power want to peacefully negotiate, then they must make it possible.
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
subtract chrismas from the plot: you have no chrismas party filling a finished floor of the office tower with future hostages; you have no cross-county traveling hero to save-the-day. becomes a six page script and an easy in-and-out for snape and co.
Die Hard, the grade school musical?
Bruce Willis would disagree
Bruce is senile, can’t be trusted
To me, Die Hard is a Christmas movie because it is set on Christmas Eve. I don’t think it technically counts as a Christmas movie, but that just makes me consider it a Christmas movie even harder
Christmas Movie 2: Xmas Harder
Only if Nightmare Before Christmas is a Christmas movie too
It’s a thanksgiving movie because it’s got halloween and xmas in it.
Regression to the mean.
Every time I watch it I am surprised at how well Xmas and Halloween go together. And mostly because Xmas is sort of a spooky holiday too yet no one ever acknowledges it.
The real Xmas movie is Eyes Wide Shut
You NEED to download the 35mm scan.
Fucking distributors did Stanley dirty cleaning it up for release. It was under exposed and overdeveloped on purpose to make the film grain pop.
What’s the best way to sail the seas for this?
I just checked torrents and looks like this one isn’t a point and click adventure, sorry.
Gonna need to figure out Usenet which typically includes at least 2 paid services, a Usenet provider and an NZB indexer and then a client to download with. not really worth it for a single thing but absolutely pays for itself if you totally replace streaming services.
A provider really is location dependant but I can totally recommend nzbgeek.info as a great indexer.
Here’s the only release I could find if the name helps:
Eyes.Wide.Shut.1999.UHD.35mmITScan.v2.1080p.DDP.5.1.x265-SM737
It’s a very dusty scan and the audio doesn’t work on some of my devices but the exposure does look better.
One of my friends had this take on it:
Die Hard can’t be a Christmas movie because Die Hard is actually good.
is actually good.
sad muted jazz noises
No, we agree that “Die Hard is a Christmas movie” is a fun proposition to entertain, either because it’s edgy and freaks the mundanes with its audacious disregard for cherished norms, or (more recently) because it’s a fun meme, with own line of commercially available ugly Christmas sweaters and knowingly ironic greeting cards. Though the meme eventually will become so overexposed that quoting from Die Hard on Christmas will become as basic and mid as dressing up in a Santa costume and drunkenly making an arse of yourself with several hundred similarly attired dudes.
Leaia is a Disney Princess.
It’s a movie about a man attending a Christmas party in order to patch things up with his wife and spend the holidays among his family. But the only way to do that, and to defeat the greedy villain, is to let go of their pride. And also there’s guns and stuff.
It’s a Christmas movie in the same way Addams family is a wholesome family. They obviously are, and you only disagree if you’re unable to look past the surface.
It is literally set at a christmas party. Without christmas, that movie doesnt happen
Everyone keeps saying that, but it could be a random party. It’s not particularly important that the party is Christmas, the company could be having an Easter celebration or even just a random party for a specific milestone for the company. As far as I remember, there’s nothing particular about being Christmas other than the decorations.
Thats a pretty thin argument. “If you replace this part of the movie, it could be completely different!”
Is home alone not a christmas movie because they also could have taken any vacation and left their kid at home?
Home alone has to be set during Christmas, these are crucial parts of the plot:
- The entire block travels at the same time
- Houses have decorations, which are used as traps
- Houses have lights that turn on at a specific time
- It has to be set during winter
So if you could have a different holiday during winter where lots of people decorate their houses to turn on lights at a specific time, then it wouldn’t necessarily be a Christmas movie. Otherwise you need to change crucial points of the plot.
Other examples are Jingle all the way or Nightmare before Christmas you can’t change the Christmas theme in those movies. I mean, you can but you’ll end up with a very different movie. Whereas if you change Christmas on Die Hard for any other party event only the decoration changes, the plot of the movie would be essentially the same.
That’s a glib technicality, but not sufficient to make it a “Christmas movie” in the usual sense. The Christmas party is a plot device, and could have been replaced with a different one without significantly altering the plot of the film.
I’m in the UK and the premiere was on the 27th November.
It certainly was aimed as a Christmas movie for a lot of the world.
The Muppets Christmas Carol is my favourite Christmas movie.
“Life is made up of meetings and partings. That is the way of it.”
I like to pretend that John McClane is Santa trying to get gifts to the hostages.
