Summary
Elon Musk has called homelessness a “lie” and “propaganda,” claiming advocacy groups profit from maintaining high homelessness rates.
Partnering with Donald Trump, Musk is pushing for drastic federal budget cuts targeting programs for vulnerable populations, including food stamps and healthcare.
Trump’s plan includes forcing unhoused individuals into treatment or institutionalization.
Critics argue these approaches criminalize homelessness while ignoring root causes like lack of affordable housing.
Homelessness in the U.S. has reached record levels, with 650,000 people affected in 2023, prompting calls for evidence-based solutions over punitive measures.
For someone with the means to reach infinite corners of the globe he’s so out of touch with the world
Wow, I didn’t think I could hate him more. But - here we are.
Im almost convinced Trump is picking the worst people possible so he looks good in comparison…
If you’re picking shitty people it doesn’t make you look good, it makes you look like a shitty person for picking shitty people.
Yeah, but you’re thinking beyond a 5th grade level.
Can’t he fuck off and die on Mars already?
Someone should tell him that we know more about the mountain and canyons of Mars than we do about the depths of the ocean… and tell him that carbon fiber actually IS the best material for a submarine… and tell him that the best shipwrecks to go to are WW1 military shipwrecks…
Homelessness couldn’t possibly be the result of late stage capitalism though, right?
It’s a result of any stage of capitalism
Excellent point.
Yeah, during the communist era in my country all the homeless were locked up in prisons.
Artificial Scarcity
I’mIt’s also interesting to think about the level of artificial unemployment. In theory everyone could work… and a lot less hours, and we would have no scarcity.
We would never do it but I have a theory that we could set aside 20T (less than 1 year of GDP) and it would be enough money to build everyone in the U.S. a house and provide free housing for everyone in America, without ever touching the initial investment, and setting aside 3% to assure if we keep inflation below 3% a year if would cover housing indefinitely. That’s based off the 2.5 people per household average, and building a new house every 30 years at a base price of $250,000. Which at mass production, would be the equivalent of a much more costly house. Could repurpose what we have to house people until everyone got moved in over a generation.
What that does is free up ~$1400-$1900 dollars a month for the average household, and instead of having to stash money in savings over the worries of losing a job and becoming homeless (which stunts the economy), it incentivises people to go eat at a restaurant more often, have a kid they were worried about having, buy nicer things. All of which is spending money and boosting the economy. More kids… Less/near 0 homeless… and booming economy that will offset the original investment. Stress levels down, happiness levels up… which should also mean health issues should decrease.
Who knows…
(That’s over 2T a year being added back into the economy, also we don’t have to build all new, refurbish/keep older homes that people want works as well, figure out solutions that have less impact on the environment, and can plan more walkable, heathier towns when building them)
GDP is not taxed revenue or availability of funds.
Gross Domestic Product (GDP) is the monetary value of all finished goods and services produced within a country during a specific period. (I used gen AI for this paragraph).
According to the CBO, they expect to collect $4.864 trillion in taxes in 2025 (source: https://www.cbo.gov/topics/taxes ).
Unless you are going to forcibly steal assets from companies (which would lead to amass exodus from the US economy and cause a massive depression) you’d never get 20 trillion.
This idea is a nice thought, but impossible and not how the economy works.
Fucking piece of shit. How are gonna stand this, bullshit…
Fuck you, I kinda rely on that shit to feed my family because my employer doesnt give out any annual increases or anything. I also use the state health insurance and my wife uses other government assistance programs. Dudes really just want me to protest outside of the White House.
You going to try to get a better job or just keep taking pay decreases year after year?
Apparently no one wants me. Never stopped applying.
Sorry to hear that, I wish you the best.
Dudes really just want me to protest outside of the White House.
Dudes want you to die.
Yeah, he’s going to gas anyone outside the white house. That’s not a bad reason to protest, though, honestly.
I’m afraid that Americans are about to find out that the right to protest isn’t one that fascist dictatorships are too keen on. They really enjoy killing and jailing dissidents, though.
Is there going to be room in the detention camps for the homeless?
Those camps will be the answer to homelessness if these ghouls have their way.
They are having their way, there’s no “if” anymore.
It’s so easy to imagine camps where they implant the homeless with a neuralink chip, dress them up in an Optimus suit and put them to work in a mega factory.
I think you would like the movie “Sorry to Bother You”.
I was thinking more of The Black Hole (1979). They used this concept in a way. And that was even a Disney movie.
I loved that movie growing up. Idk if you saw the one I mentioned, but it really has almost everything you talked about in it. Not Optimus suit so much, but the rest.
They have to put that concentration of people somewhere.
Instead of Jews, it’s Hispanics. Instead of gypsies, it’s the homeless. And instead of trans people…well that one is the same.
What makes you think that Trump intends to spare the gypsies?
We don’t really have Roma people in the US.
Bro america has Travelers. They are Roma people. You didn’t know this?
But we do have people who can be accused of being Roma, followed by an explanation of why that is somehow bad.
Objective truth no longer has a horse in this race.
Yeah but I don’t think most people in the US know what that is. It wouldn’t be useful to them. If they wanted to demonize someone, they’d call them addicts or illegal immigrants or something.
Most people in the US don’t even know the Roma consider ‘Gypsy’ to be a slur.
They also don’t know that the same slur is used for Irish Travellers. Or that there are such a thing as Irish Travellers.
Lolbruh, plenty of room on the cattle cars for all of the above. Maybe I’ll run into you.
“What you actually have are violent drug zombies with dead eyes, and needles and human feces on the street.”
Yo this is the most cartoonish out-of-touch shit take I’ve see. In an election that accused a disenfranchised minority group of eating people’s pets!
So the one thing that differentiates homeless people and CEOs in shit in the street?
It Depends, thank you very much no further questions.
Sounds like the kind of thing a tyrannical government would say.
You reap what you sow. I hope you will suffer for your stupidity.
He will be fine but others less fortunate will suffer.
Once upon a time, I was saving for a Tesla. Not anymore. The end.
Going for a Nisan Leaf?
That would actually be one of reasonable choices. Most e-cars today are over-engineered and too complex for the users’ good, but Leaf has been on the market for very long, has gone though many generations and repair shops generally know their way around it (even I have taken apart a Leaf’s battery). If Nissan’s engineers aren’t fools, they have solved most issues.
Tesla is a smartphone on wheels, and a maintenance nightmare. Also, it has the highest rate of fatal accidents in its category. Even if it didn’t earn Elon a penny, I’d not recommend it.
So… You think people who are homeless are just lying about not having a home?
Can we check this fuckstick for brain worms or just if his brain looks like swiss cheese?
He doesn’t actually believe anything he espouses. He only says these things to further his goal of self enrichment to our detriment.
It’s so much worse than that. From the article;
“Homeless is a misnomer. It implies that someone got a little bit behind on their mortgage, and if you just gave them a job, they’d be back on their feet,” he told former Fox News personality Tucker Carlson in October. “What you actually have are violent drug zombies with dead eyes, and needles and human feces on the street.”
Basically, it’s not the “homeless” part of “homeless people” he thinks is a lie.
This take is infuriating because it completely ignores the unobvious homeless (or unhoused). If homeless equates to “drug zombie,” then you can say shit like “this person chose to be homeless so they could do drugs” or “they deserve what they get because of drugs” or some other awful sentiment I can’t articulate. It completely erases homelessness because of bigotry, domestic abuse, low wages, lack of opportunity, etc.
And to top it off, Musk can literally afford to never go to the places where you’d most likely see his version of the homeless.
I think the idea is they are too lazy to work for rent. If they really wanted they would go to work and not be homeless anymore. And if they are not able to find any job, they can always do forced labor in a prison system. That’s how it was in the USSR. People in power really like this kind of a system
Would it even matter? We’re already gonna have a brainworm running the DHHS…
Maybe all these numbnuts are brainworms driving human meat suits.
Kind of like the “self-made billionaire.”
Every action involves a reaction.
You cut taxes? What will be lost? This is not an exception.
Half million people that have literally nothing to lose (even a prison may be a safer place for them) is quite an army. Desperate people are famous for doing desperate things.
This will not end up well and not only for the homeless
I’m sure he recognizes this, but also recognizes that he won’t be on the first front of that particular fight.
Musk is pushing for drastic federal budget cuts targeting programs for vulnerable populations
Billionaire cuts services for the poor. Bears continue to shit in the woods. What next? The sun rises in the morning?
