This simplifies driving greatly. I’ll be pedal to the metal most of the time I’m not braking.
Just add limiters for all the other laws of the road, and poof! Self-driving cars!
This is fantastic! Fuck cops. If the cars can do the crime, then there’s no need for speeding tickets.
Wow I’m so happy I won’t have to be part of the world you live in - where it’s OK for idiots to speed and where cops (because they’re law enforcers) are “bad guys.” Jesus what a messed up set of values you people have. No wonder our country is going down the toilet.
It’s supposed to say can’t… If the cars can’t let you speed, then there should not be any speeding tickets anymore. Right?
Ok that makes sense, hopefully if cars can’t speed there wouldn’t be any need for speeding tickets. But there will always be a need for police, people are still going to drive under the influence, act like idiots and cause accidents as a result.
Come on guys it is old technology, it will be soon the case in EU :
From july 2024 all new cars will have an intelligent GPS which prevents driver that the speed limit is exceeded (the gas pedal will be stronger). of course you can disable it, but you have to do it every time you start.
Can’t wait to see drivers panic because they can speed up in 30km/h areas (like around schools)
People (generally young men overrepresented on platforms like this) get really defensive about not being able to speed. They’re the exact problem these laws are aimed at addressing, so of course they get all upset at methods to force their compliance with the laws they’re regularly breaking. I’ve been there. I sped excessively too, then I got a really massive ticket and realized maybe that 2 minutes I was saving in my commute wasn’t actually that important.
10mph over? Have they driven on CA freeways? The vast majority of traffic is moving at 15+ mph over.
This will cause traffic slow downs and more road rage.
One interesting about speeding in traffic. Often you’re rushing just to stop.
It’s been proven that if you cap the max speed in heavy traffic everyone gets through it faster. Less stop and go with merges and guesses.
Think of all the times someone sped up to prevent you from changing lanes? Or someone blocks you during a zipper merge.
Traffic wouldn’t suck as much if people didn’t suck. I can’t wait until a few decades from now we’ve got AI cars Managing it for us.
“Land of the free” california does not deserve to be part of thw US
I’m not saying I support the measure but I also don’t understand your statement? We curtail some freedoms to create some safety for the public. Limiting driving speed is one of them and has a massive impact on traffic fatalities in busy areas. There are other people on the road.
Good.
Why would you need a car that can go 200mph? Where are you going to use it? Oh yeah typically in school zones or some shit. If the limit is 50mph, ITS FOR A FUCKING REASON.
Also, US cites and states, START DESIGNING YOUR ROADS FOR THE SPEED YOU NEED. If you design a road next to a school like a highway, don’t be surprised when people drive 70mph. This simple idea is used all over the place in the Netherlands and guess what? IT FUCKING WORKS BECAUSE IT MAKES FUCKING SENSE .
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would be a prohibitively expensive and complex system to implement and maintain, what an incredibly stupid idea… even if every single person drove the exact same brand and model of car, it would be astronomically expensive to implement, and incalculably expensive to maintain… a billionaire must have thought of it…
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Technologically speaking, easy.
A - system turns off
B - new speed becomes the current limit
C - reported/ticket/vehicle is disabled.
I’m not talking about autopilot. It’s your job, as it is today, to reduce your speed BEFORE the limit change.
Isn’t that just going to cause accidents? For all the non regulated cars on the highway, what happens if you need to merge into a lane where the flow of traffic is faster than the speed limit? It doesn’t even have to be a highway, but lane changes in any city can have that problem I imagine.
I can only imagine going to pass and failing to do so in as timeless manner as needs to occur…
That would make passing so much more dangerous as people are in the other lane even longer.
How about let people actually own the fucking car they purchase
You will own nothing and be happy
There are plenty of rules your car has to comply with in order to use public roads.
Rules are different from taking direct control away from the driver.
You still have to obey the speed limit when you own the car you purchase.
Oof. I generally am a supporter of Scott Wiener but this is not a winning issue. Mass transit, drugs, and lgbtq issues are his wheelhouse
I saw a video yesterday of cars fleeing the 2011 tsunami in Japan, I’m willing to bet those people exceeded 10mph over the posted speed limit trying to get away from the water.
Limiting the speed of the vehicles isn’t going to improve driving skills or eliminate distractions. It isn’t going to make people drive safer, just slower. I’m sure any situation where people need to go 10+ miles over the speed limit is going to be exceedingly rare and limited to things like fleeing forest fires or tsunamis, but limiting the speed isn’t going to have a huge impact on accidents.
It could decrease fuel consumption and emissions though 🤷♂️.
But it still seems like a problem that could be solved with better enforcement.There are reasons other than natural disasters that happen all the time. Health emergencies are a fine example of this. Yes, ideally you’d wait for an ambulance but oft times that’s just not viable.
Sounds like a roundabout way to track everyone
You don’t have to track a car to limit how fast it goes. Speed governerors exist inside gas powered cars already. All that has to be done is 1) legally require a manufacturer to limit speeds of their vehicles, and 2) prosecute them when they do not implement those restrictions. The rest is lawyers and lines of code (and lines of coke I guess)
You need location data to be able to determine what limit to impose.
And I bet you anything it will be a cloud based system.
How do you think GPS receivers work?
They don’t transmit the speed limit of the current road, and for things like construction they’ll need real-time updates.
I’m certain they won’t want to push the entire database out to every vehicle for every update…
They don’t need real time updates to accomplish their goals. The car just needs accurate days most of the time. Having the car download periodic updates to a database that covers the whole state is perfectly feasible and involves no tracking.
You should be worried more about tracking through license plates and cameras.
It would work everywhere except construction sites, where we can just have cops like we do everywhere right now.
GPS is a great solution, it already tells you what the speed limits are depending on the software.
I have a hard time believing it would be impossible to wire up a device that sends out a wireless signal with the local speed limit at every speed limit sign.
Why does it need to go to a database for it instead of have a receiver on the vehicle itself to pull data as it passes speed limit signs?
In fact, a centralized database would likely have more problems with not being accurate or current. Have you ever dealt with government databases?
Edit: Part of the reason the database would be trash is because speed limits are set by cities, not by the state. So in the database scenario every time a city updates their speed limit, they have to document all the zones and upload them to the database. All it takes is paperwork getting backed up a week for that to cause problems.
i’d sabotage those signs’ transmitters so fast
We got a tough guy here.
EDIT: Also I’m fairly sure that destruction of government property is a felony and if it’s wired for this, it could easily be wired to take and send photos when tampered with, but you do you. I guess people do just hate infrastructure more than *checks notes… being spied on. Because when given an alternative without a database, they shit on it.
Just fucking electronically limit the max speed to the maximum allowed in the country. That would solve most of the issues and work 100% of the time. Also, I don’t care that in your fantasy scenario you have to race to a hospital at 100mph because someone cut of his head with chainsaw and there’s no ambulance service.
nah it doesn’t solve the issue of crazy speeding in school areas and city center.
You can go as fast as you want on a airstrip, I won’t mind, but respect the life of other people (“you” is general ofc)
If you want to race on a airstrip or a racetrack buy a race car and take it there on a flatbed. Driving racecars on normal streets doesn’t make sense.
You will still have issues with people going 30mph in 20pmh zone but it’s a good compromise: you’re reducing the most deadly high speed crashes but the solution is extremely simple (it doesn’t require GPS or image analysis) which means it will not have false positives, it will not affect the price of new cars and it will be better for privacy. It can also be retroactively applied to many existing cars so you could introduce it sooner.
A speed limiter like this was proposed right when automobiles were coming into the mainstream. The world could be a very different place if regulations and restrictions like that had actually passed. I guess we can only dream…