I finally managed to install Lineage os on this HTC One (m8) thanks to the help of Lemmy!
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If you’re going to use WhatsApp ( and not Signal 😮💨 ), at least use it in a separate profile ( using Shelter ) so it doesn’t scan your contacts ( and probably everything else )
Just recently discovered shelter, too. I would have gotten it way earlier if I knew. Had to install an app that I knew was too grabby with data (luckily for one-time use) and only found out about shelter researching how to stop it from spying too much.
banking apps are really annoying in this regard, they come with tons of trackers, and often times they use their mobile apps as a Security layer for your account, so you have to install them…
glad to see my banking app works in the work profile and doesn’t require play services ( I dont and never will use a Google or Apple system )
I didn’t know Shelter existed!!! Damn, thx for the recommendation, this has to be shilled more often imho
You’re welcome, I don’t usually write comments, recently I’m having this assumption of “everyone knows this already…” but here we are… 🤷🏻♂️
Imposter syndrome is kicking in hard as you can see
What is shelter?
In Android operating system, work profiles can be enabled using Android’s Admin panel ( I think that’s what they call it ), which requires a Google account, in a degoogled Android, we use Shelter which can enable the Work profile, apps in work profiles are isolated/separated from the main one, and they don’t have access to your main profile’s data, unless you allow it, you can also freeze apps when you lock your phone, ( apps like … Ahhm excuse me, I mean SPYWARE like Facebook, Tiktok keeps running in the background sending data and that might be a useful for that )
In CalyxOS you can set the VPN ( ProtonVPN ) to route all your traffic ( including the work profile ) thru the VPN tunnel, giving you extra layer of protection. ( I don’t know if it’s possible on LineageOS )
Personally I won’t take the risk of using Big tech apps from Meta, especially Meta,Tiktok and Google even in the work profile, I consider these apps to be spyware, and what spyware does is bypassing your guards and firewalls, working in mysterious ways ( proprietary Software ), and finally gathering as much info as possible from the infected device ( in the background off course )
Neither VPNs or work profiles work with my Motorola g73, I keep getting error messages
This is common in Stock Android OS, creating Work profiles using Shelter is painful, I think due to the vendor unecessary twearks and additions which may look and feel good but increase the attack surface, and judging by all the crashes it indicates poorly written code
From Shelter’s repo
Shelter is only as safe as the Work Profile implementation of the Android OS you are using
As for VPNs I’m not sure why wouldn’t they work, g73 has Android 13 or 14, see what kind of error message you’re getting and look it up, maybe ask here or on XDA developers forum
Alternative with the same option is “island”
Shelter is FOSS, and I think is just a better app at this point.
No disrespect to Island, it works and it’s free, but I do think Shelter is preferable.
I’ve been using insular which is basically the foss version of island
Feature comparison chart between the three:
Thanks may have to try shelter since the camera thing has been an issue on insular and caused me to put ABSOLUTELY PROPREITARY apps on my main profile lol
In CalyxOS you can set the VPN ( ProtonVPN ) to route all your traffic ( including the work profile ) thru the VPN tunnel, giving you extra layer of protection. ( I don’t know if it’s possible on LineageOS )
Yes with the Netguard app (on fdroid) https://netguard.me/
Netguard is a firewall app, it doesn’t route traffic it blocks, afaik
😹😹😹, awesome, welcome to the club 🍻
Good point, I’m gonna uninstall it. I just waned to show someone that you dont need the playstore to install WhatsApp
Is this necessary if I avoid Meta products entirely and already use DDG app tracking protection for everything else? Regardless, I can’t find “Shelter” on the Play Store anyway.
It depends on your threat model, your priorities and needs…
tracking can take so many forms, it can be done in so many ways, apps you install on your phone has built in trackers, and the apps themselves can be used to spy on you, so if you trust a service enough to install their app on your phone, you shouldn’t be worried about their trackers, but if they’re trustworthy, why would they build trackers into their apps in the first place?
Here’s an example : Reddit Vs Voyager ( a Lemmy Client )
I’m saying this because there is no one solution for the surveillance evil tech, ( well, there is and that’s if you stop using it, but even then they’ll keep stalking you with pixel trackers and cookies… Etc etc… ), but don’t get me wrong, these tools ( like DDG protection and Shelter ) they do work, and they do some damage ( to the surveillance tech giants ), but if you’re finding yourself using them, maybe it’s time to look for alternatives, and when you can’t find an alternative for a particular service, and that service Is only available via an app, use it in Shelter away from your main profile that has your life in it
Shelter isn’t available on the play store because it’s a privacy tool, made by a privacy minded individual who dont wanna pay google ( not because they’re a cheap person ), but because Google scans your downloads and knows every app you’re using, remember they own the play store, the safest apps you can get are available on Fdroid which hosts many apps that respects your digital rights and doesn’t sell you behind your back.
sniffs
It still smells like corporate data collecting nonsense in here. And I think I know why.
Spoiler alert: it’s WhatsApp.
Allready deleted that app, if you scroll thru the comments you can see that it’s been replaced by signal.
Don’t forget to stay away from stupid keyboards!!
Some are basically key loggers
Most of them. Florisboard or Openboard.
Ah, the wonderful M8. Loved that phone, used one for over a year.
I was the only person in my company capable of stripping them down for repair. Really not built to come apart
I had one for a couple years too, back when it was new. I loved it. such good stereo speakers.
One of the best Android phones ever made. Just seeing this photo made me happy and Nostalgic
How does it work? Have you also tried the AOT for all your apps to help with performance.
What’s AOT?
Android uses a Just-in-Time (JIT) compile of applications. You can compile everything Ahead-of-Time (AOT) via adb. It would in theory improve performance when starting applications.
This is very interesting, I will check it. Are there any drawbacks?
Edit: Just tried it. No miracles, but got a noticeable gain is usability on my phone. I recommend it to everyone using low-end devices out there. The instructions I found used this command: adb shell cmd package compile -m speed -f -a
Yeah, I think you need to do it after any update. I do this on my OG Pixel XL
WE DID IT!!
This is actually insane. That phone is like a decade old isn’t it?
I kept a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 from 2013 up to date with CyanogenNod until the LineageOS fork. That thing had 768MB of RAM and 8GB of storage and couldn’t even fully update to Android 4.4.4 due to lack of storage space, but around Android 7 with custom ROMs was when I felt it simply wasn’t worth the effort anymore due to the terrible performance
Yep, and only 2GB RAM.
Fun fact: You can put PostmarketOS on Nokia N900 which is from 2009. It should still make it relatively usable, though probably quite slow. It only has 256MB RAM and a single-core 32-bit 600MHz CPU.
I wish N900 had a modern version.
- March 2014 to be exact!
Very cool. I loved the m7 and m8, front facing speakers desperately need a comeback
We need phones to have bezels again anyway. I’m sick of having to gingerly hold a phone in hopes of not accidentally touching the screen
I’m guessing you don’t have a case on yours? I always buy a $10 case from a noname brand online anytime I hit phone upgrade time because its just enough to keep it from breaking in my relatively few drops
I do have a case, but it still doesn’t take away from the fact that the screen goes beyond the edge of the glass and it’s a bit on the curvy part. But you also shouldn’t have to have a case on a phone. But now they make them like glass sandwiches so we have to be careful with them like looking after an egg in school.
I also got myself out of the phone contract cycle. Waste a lot of money staying in a contract. Been with my current phone for like 5 or 6 years now. Pixel 3, if you care.
Oh yeah, I say “phone upgrade time” referring to when the phone starts showing it’s wear and/or age. I generally buy unlocked midrange phones and upgrade every 2-3 years. It’s really funny hearing my MIL brag about how good of a deal she gets paying hundreds per month for their contact when their contract literally costs more per month than a single month of the prepaid service and an inexpensive unlocked device
trick question, lemmy is god
I’m about to buy a Galaxy S4 and do the same.
Lemmy seems like a nice person, even helping with bootloader unlocking and stuff
Unlike that infamous hacker known as 4chan
I think Lemmy is a pretty cool guy. Eh helps support legacy devices and doesnt afraid of anything.
I have not heard a reference to this in like ten years.
Yeah I’m just getting warmed up. Maybe I’ll break out a Chuck Testa reference later!
Can you share the origin with the rest of us?
It comes from an ancient 4chan meme.
Jesus Christ that’s ancient wisdom.
Yeah that Lemmy person definitely deserved a shoutout!
Congrats bro!!! Welcome to the club 😎😎😎
I need to get my old M8! One of my fave phone!
I remember always wanting an HTC One M8 because of the dual front facing speakers.
I loved my M8!
Mann I remember my M8. I still use it as an IR remote sometimes. Sadly the battery is pretty much completely dead so I can’t really use it for anything else.
I used to love my HTC phones 8 years ago. It’s a shame their later phones were such shit
I had an HTC 10 at the time, around its release date as that was the only phone with a Snapdragon 820. It was an ok phone but got better with a custom ROM+kernel. Shame about no dual front facing speakers on the HTC 10 because the single front facing speaker actually sounded great.
I’m head over heels in love with my M7! It’s so good, people would constantly ask to check it out.
I had that phone, also with Lineage. It was great. :)
Same here, one of the best phones I’ve ever had.
