TL;DR
Don’t use snapchat
TL;DR
Don’t use snapchat
TIL that Snapchat is an app used in 2024 without E2EE, Wikipedia article on Snapchat :
Encryption
In January 2018, Snapchat introduced the use of end-to-end encryption in the application but only for snaps (pictures and video), according to a Snapchat security engineer presenting at the January 2019 Real World Crypto Conference.[138][139][140] As of the January 2019 conference Snapchat had plans to introduce end-to-end encryption for text messages and group chats in the future.[141]
Its also proprietary so any claim can’t be trusted.
Well, doesn’t matter if it’s proprietary. Just need to sniff packets and you’d find out if they are encrypted or not, no?
Edit: looks like it’s not E2E truly. It might be encrypted in flight, but snapchat as an entity can read anyone’s messages. They have a policy to act on threats within thirty minutes and report it to the authorities. Dystopian.
It very much matters. When something is proprietary there is a, no alternatives that will function exactly the same and b, you don’t know what its really doing. For all you know its detecting the sniffing and changing its behavior.
Additionally how do you know what’s being sent if its encrypted.
Yeah, see my edit.
Before the edit, I just meant the technicality itself: is it actually encrypted or is it plain text? This would have mattered if the state intercepted the message somehow, spying on their citizens. But apparently they did not, because snapchat leaked the data to them in a semi-automated manner: auto-generated incident report based on filtering gets escalated to authorities.
That’s a reasonable ruling. He honestly could sue if he wanted.
I think the most newsworthy part of this is that UK monitors private communications of British citizens. The person was making an obvious joke within a private snapchat group of his friends who knew this was a joke. There was no threat and no hoax because this was a private chat where everybody had context that this was a joke. This is what life in a dystopian surveillance state is like.
I think its likely more than the UK. Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some government contractor doing the monitoring
indeed
Probably as part of a new pre-screening program for employers!
he wrote “On my way to blow up the plane (I’m a member of the Taliban).” in a private group chat on snap chat
…a private group chat. Nothing stupid like posting it on xitter or other public place.
Its a fucking in-joke. Do I need to worry about what I say to my friends now in private and worry about what my friendly local government spy would think about it… ?
All this invasion of privacy all these years and all they have to show for it is a few false positives.
The spying is not what suprises me, it’s the prosecution. I see why the term matched, I just don’t see why it would be illegal.
In general I agree, but there’s no privacy on airport Wi-Fi. And very little at an airport in general.
I wouldn’t expect my data to be secure, but I wouldn’t expect to be prosecuted as if I had willfully made it a public statement.
Honestly I hope that this trial is swift and that the government ends up paying him for lost time and money.
On the other hand this is a really good reason to use encrypted communications
He was acquitted, thankfully.
Probably Snapchat or the phone automatically reported something.
I don’t believe the Snapshat app don’t use TLS, nor the airport performed some sophisticated man-in-the-middle attack.
Its called mass surveillance. Everything you do and say is being recorded. End to end encryption will only buy you time. (Side note: don’t trust proprietary apps)
You were convicted of thought crime, next time think what you… think, punk
Exactly, this is such a silly case. I think its even funnier that he was interviewed by MI6 and MI7
This is the best summary I could come up with:
If found guilty, the university student faces a hefty bill for expenses after two Spanish Air Force jets were scrambled.
Mr Verma’s message was picked up by the UK security services who flagged it to Spanish authorities while the easyJet plane was still in the air.
A court in Madrid heard it was assumed the message triggered alarm bells after being picked up via Gatwick’s Wi-Fi network.
Appearing in court on Monday, Mr Verma - who is now studying economics at Bath University - said the message was “a joke in a private group setting”.
He said that the plane’s pilot made an announcement, telling passengers that the fighter jets had been scrambled because of a distress signal that had been sent by mistake.
Mr Verma is not facing terrorism charges or a possible jail term, but could be fined up to €22,500 (£19,300) if found guilty and the Spanish defence ministry is demanding €95,000 in expenses.
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Just for anyone curious, he wrote: “On my way to blow up the plane (I’m a member of the Taliban).” in a private chat.
