Gentle reminder to everyone that support for #windows10 ends in about 90 weeks. Many computers can’t upgrade to Win 11 so here are your options:
- Continue on Win 10 but with higher security risks.
- Buy new and expensive hardware that supports Win11.
- Try a beginner friendly #Linux distro like #linuxmint. It only takes about two months to acclimate.
I understand you want people to switch to Linux but
- 90 weeks is far away. It drops in October 2025
- You’ll still get security updates for a few years
- After that there will be paid support which people will get around and find ways to install
- Windows 10 LTSC (best version of Windows IMO) still exists. The Enterprise LTSC version will have support till 2027 and the IoT version will have support till 2032. You can get them if you know how to look around
Its quite difficult to get legit LTSC licenses unless you’re a large org.
Last time I looked into it anyway. You can buy ltsc keys from third parties but AFAIK Microsoft will deactivate the license if they realize how you acquired it.
Yeah I wasn’t talking about getting it the legal way. They don’t care unless you’re a business.
I’ll just leave this here for educational purposes https://massgrave.dev/ https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts
Plus, you can actually install Windows 11 on the same hardware as Windows 10 pretty easily. Microsoft just does not want you to.
All the more time for Valve to expand on Proton and push Linux compatibility, and for EA and the rest to get their thumbs out of their collective asses and support it at all
CLickbait bullshit and everyone that upvoted is responsible. This is stupid, you can do better.
Given the break-neck pace of development, I am sure the ReactOS folks will be ready.
Does the bypass not still work?
Sure, but then pretty well nothing will work, so what’s the point ?
Stuff breaks?
It does, you can manually install windows 11 even without the hardware “requirements”
Everyone is fear mongering over this. It’s the same shit how windows 10 didn’t officially support a bunch of systems but you could install it anyway.
Currently running a desktop on W11 on “unsupported hardware”. Even managed to get it onto a 15 year old machine running a first gen i7 920 and not even a hint of a TPM module as an experiment and it worked perfectly fine.
1 it is.
- Backport fixes manually
- use rufus to bypass hardware requirements, enforced account and bitlocker
I’ve seen non-tech users in Linux many times. It doesn’t take them 2 months to acclimatise, at most 2 weeks but typically just 2 days. If there’s a blocker, there’s a blocker (like “my shitty bank requires some shitty software installed and they don’t support Linux”) but if there are no blockers it’s really quick. 95% of normal users just need a browser. The next 4% need LibreOffice. It’s only the last 1% that have some need that doesn’t sit in an office package or the browser.
We, the gamers, the geeks, the golems, WE have needs that may not be satisfied with Linux. But we are not normal users. So about 3% of us can be bothered to try and accept the missing software (and learn to love the new - God there are some apps I miss when in Windows), the remaining 97% either try and can’t accept the new habits required or don’t try.
But normal users?! Stick them in Mint Linux and show them where the browser is and they’ll be fine.
IMHO.
Further evidence for this is ChromeOS. It’s just a Linux distro, but worse. It does little more than run Chrome. Yet it’s popular. Anyone that tolerates ChromeOS would have an even better time on most of the standard distros if they had someone to set it up for them.
Normal users don’t even need a PC. Most of what they do can be handled on a phone or tablet.
Why is Libre Office always the goto? I’ve been trying every MS Office alternative and Libre is way down on this list. It doesn’t compare. In my searching, I even found video of the creators seeming more keen to (rightly) blame MS for compatibility issues. Meanwhile alternatives just work with the reality and reduce differences in exchanging files from the world’s most common option. Plus, and this is more personal, Libre Office is dog doo ugly. Ditto for Gimp.
As someone newer to Linux, people really don’t emphasize enough the need to find alternative software that fits into one’s life. It’s all fine to say it’s all just new setups and once you learn them your good, but most world interactions with tech that isn’t your own will be Windows. Why fight the stream when you Don’t have to? There are lot of alternate Office programs is what I am saying and some are almost as good as massively funded MS Office.
Dunno really. I hardly use any office app except for Excel on Windows. What are the best alternatives in your view?
We, the gamers, the geeks, the golems
What does ‘golem’ mean in this context?
I’m old. I’m low-end overweight. I don’t shave for days. I’ve been in tech for decades. I was describing myself and my ilk as golems.
Also, it just happened to alliterate with gamers and geeks.
90 weeks is catchy, but it is also a little under 2 years. 22 months.
Using Windows 10 offline for years can be a perfectly legitimate option, as well as using Firefox ESR with uBO with Kaspersky IS, if you need Windows.
Use the correct tool for the correct job. I dual both Debian and W10, and so I speak from experience, wisdom and what IT veterans also say.
Last I checked windows 11 can be installed without TPM support. I think rufus even has a simple checkbox for it and Chris Titus’s winutil can modify an ISO to do the sams
I would assume this breaks some kind of license agreement.
- Go to windows 10 enterprise to 2025 or if you want as little windows as possible go with windows 10 ltsc and you have support until end of 2026.
I’ve been wanting to ditch Windows for a while now. I’ve tried dual booting so that I only boot to Windows if I need to play some game that only works on it.
But usually the thing I do the most on my PC is: play videogames. And majority of the games I enjoy are using 3rd party anti-cheats such as EAC and so on. And to my understanding, there are no really a good ways to get those games work on linux at this moment.
Sure, if I played mostly Linux supported games or single player games (I guess big chunk of those work thanks to Steam and Proton) there would be no such a big issue but I am not willing to quit some of these games just so I can make the switch to Linux.
But what I have decided on is that W10 will be my last Windows on my home PC.
I am curious, if anyone has been in similar situation and have come up with a good solution? Maybe two PCs + KVM switch?
Surely if I search the internet I can find many solutions but I am interested to see what this community has to say about this.
I have an old potato laptop with two SSDs, i dual boot between Win10 and OpenSuse.
I have tried using Linux only but it’s not ideal for games, there is notable difference in FPS drop with directx games running on Linux (especially on old PCs like mine).So I use win10 for gaming and Linux for everything else (surfing web, movies, manage documents, small rpi projects).
It’s a good compromise for me.I’d say gaming on Linux can be great but it heavily depends on your hardware and what you play (also it’s getting better over time so with all that we’re on a constant «your mileage may vary» situation) .
On old/potato machines though, yeah it has more chances to be less ideal than windows in most situations. (I am only talking from experiences with various computers, to be clear. I am sure it can be less or more optimistic for others.)
I actually used to run a Linux laptop + Win laptop setup with a kvm switch a couple years back. It worked just fine, but I found myself barely even using my Windows machine for anything but gaming. Eventually I found out my games ran perfectly on Linux, and ended up switching to linux on the second laptop as well, as navigating the windows desktop had become painfully clunky, lol
tl;dr: a kvm setup is great but be careful what you wish for. Once you start running Linux there is no going back…
I switched to Linux three years ago. I was dual booting until I realised I was barely launching windows anymore. So I just removed it. But just to be sure it wouldn’t be an issue if I ever needed windows again, I installed it on an external ssd with rufus, and it’s actually more handy than your usual dual booting. I had the same issue with some games not yet properly working on Linux (like Vermintide) but in the end it was solved and I ended up never using windows for anything…the last two times I’ve had to use it was to unlock the Iphone of a friend and to make a pesky printer work…and it was half a year ago.
I have used Linux as my main for 20 years, but I have a dedicated windows computer for games (hooked to my TV in the living room). A lot of my steam games work in Linux nowadays, but the windows computer just works without fuss. I use it ONLY for games and turn it off when I’m not playing anything.
Ironically some older games (older win95/98/XP era games) work better in Linux under wine or emulation…
I have also used a windows vm with gpu pass-through to play games on my Linux machine, though I’m sure a lot of your anti cheat would probably not allow that. I don’t bother with that anymore since so many games work in Linux with proton.
For non-gaming use I feel that 99% of dual boot scenarios should probably just be virtual machines instead. I have a windows VM I fire up for proprietary software or work related stuff when necessary.
Sysadmin noises
I expect a jump in Linux users, which is of course great news. Albeit in time I expect even more Tech companies to get into the space too, which is not optimal. As I expect them to corrupt a lot of open source projects.
Option3: give and give hard to reactos and hope for a usable product by win10s death
ReactOS is a cool project but ultimately pointless compared to the other free alternatives we have, with libre ecosystems.
ROS is built to be a drop in replacement for the Windows operating system, while retaining all other components of the system (like proprietary drivers, programs, etc).
Why if there are so good gnulinux distros nowadays and most software is already working there?
Once Windows 10 loses support I’m moving to XP for security
I was trying to make a Windows XP compatible app last month and my god is it ever difficult. Nothing works on XP anymore, so it’s insanely hard to test/develop software. All the legacy download links are dead too, so you can’t go install older versions of things either.
I have a nice preserved ZIP of all the latest 32-bit XP software that can be run successfully without any issues. I use it on a VM, and it even has MS Office 2007! You will be surprised how new most of it is.
This is from July 2023.
You should switch to React os. It has an app store of outdated software.
And why do I need that, when I have a self curated repository for XP software for an offline XP VM, and I use updated software on Windows 10? Besides, I daily Debian Stable way more than I use Windows for specific needs.
Windows XP was introduced 20 years after the sale of the first IBM PC in 1981.
It has one been 23 years since then!
Things certainly changed a lot more before than after.
