Online travel agent allows customers to filter out Boeing 737 Max planes::Kayak customers can exclude Max 9 aircraft after cabin panel blowout on Alaska Airlines flight

  • TheDarkKnight@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Seems small but something like this could kill this plane as a passenger jet if enough people are avoiding em.

    • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      I’m all for it to be honest. The 737 Max sounds like a death trap, and until Boeing is banned from certifying their own planes nobody should be flying in these IMO.

      The FAA needs to start certifying these themselves again, and remove the existing loopholes/exemptions that allow some design changes to avoid recertification

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    10 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A leading online travel agent has added filters to let users exclude flights that use Boeing’s troubled 737 Max planes, after a piece of fuselage falling off an Alaska Airlines flight led to a surge of user interest in avoiding the airliners.

    Following the Alaska Airlines incident, it says there was a 15-fold increase in use of the original filter, prompting it to rework the setting, making it more prominent on the search page and adding the ability to distinguish between 737 Max 8 and Max 9 planes, since only the latter has been grounded by America’s Federal Aviation Administration.

    The surge of interest in the new feature demonstrates the unusual extent to which typical travellers are actively avoiding the 737 Max planes.

    Such filters are more commonly used by regular travellers with esoteric preferences around particular seat locations on various planes, rather than a broad-brush fear of an entire family of jets.

    On Sunday, the FAA expanded its scrutiny of Boeing jets to another, older model of 737, the 737-900ER, which it says uses a similar door design.

    “The safety of the flying public, not speed, will determine the timeline for returning these aircraft to service,” it said.


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  • Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    I was just thinking about this lastnight; I don’t fly often, but next time I do, I’ll be paying attention to which plane is actually used and avoiding the max.

    I’ve never paid any attention to the plane model before.

    Boeing fucked up pretty big with this plane if even those that pretty much never fly are thinking this way.

  • corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    I don’t want to filter out the max8/max8 planes because of bad pitot tubes or blowouts or nosedives.

    I want to filter them out because even on a good day they’re horribly appointed terrible airplanes with absolutely nothing redeeming about them.

    And I fly the fancy seats.

    The fact they even HAVE a configuration where the back loo is right next to the galley with an open-air American-style bathroom partition separating the two, that should get someone arrested.

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      10 months ago

      I thought generally the configuration of seats and galleys and toilets was up to the airline and they were pretty much modular?

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          10 months ago

          Some people on lemmy are smart, likely a higher ratio than many other sites, but there’s still a ridiculous surplus of fools

          • meyotch@slrpnk.net
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            10 months ago

            And all those smart people still have incredibly stupid opinions outside their areas of expertise. Everyone is a moron in the wrong context.

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              10 months ago

              I’d posit a well rounded education doesn’t necessarily agree with that. You don’t need a professional education in a topic to be able to provide a decent opinion, it’s just that many people opt not to work on their own educations and prefer to be spoon fed materials, and it’s this behaviour that produces morons in almost every context, rather than individuals that have problematic views in a few topics.

    • 13617@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      thought you were serious for a second, for those who aren’t getting the joke, driving your car is thousands of times more dangerous than taking a plane flight

      • BobGnarley@lemm.ee
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        10 months ago

        Idk man I see this statistic all the time but you might survive a car crash but if you fall from a metal tube in the sky you are most likely dead as fuck. I think crashes happen lessoften but when you do crash in a plane theres usually zero survivors

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            8 months ago

            I came back to find this comment. How do you feel about flying now? Make sure it’s not a Boeing amirite?

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              8 months ago

              I am an airframe and powerplant certified mechanic, I worked on 737NGs for years as well as a320/1/neo, etc.

              I know more about aviation than you, I know more about plane crashes than you.

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    10 months ago

    My first thought after the door incident was that I hope this brings the price down of air travel, looks like that’s happening

    I dunno I would still fly on a Boeing for a discount

  • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    How about just Boeing entirely? The Max planes have been problematic, but what about the 757’s having doors blow open mid flight or missing bolts or loose bolts? The issue with Boeing is getting so bad, Bombardier in Canada is starting to actually do business again.

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      10 months ago

      Not to give Boeing any slack but what 757 had it’s door blown open? The only one I can find was DHL 757 which had its cargo door open during flight. Boeing had nothing to do with that incident as the plane originally left the factory in a passenger jet. Later in the aircraft’s life it was converted into a freighter by Precision Conversions LLC. This wasn’t even a door plug situation like with AS1282 as the conversion process preformed by Precision Conversions LLC requires cutting a rather large hole in the fuselage for the cargo door. The other thing is Boeing hasn’t produced a 757 since 2004, any manufacturering defect thats made it twenty years before causing issues is pretty impressive.

      Also bombardier currently only makes business jets. The closest plane bombardier has ever made to competing with Boeing was the C series however those jets were designed for regional flights which is a sector of the industry Boeing doesn’t really compete in outside of the 737 max 7. On top of that because of shady deals bombardier orchestrated Boeing got very scared and lobbied the department of commerce to enact a 292% import tariff on the C series. Due to the tariffs Bombardier ended up completely selling the C series to airbus in 2020 who rebranded it to the A220.

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    10 months ago

    Too bad if you’re already booked and the airline company changes the plane on you…

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    10 months ago

    If it’s not Boeing then who? Santoclose? Airbus? China?

    Obviously they fucked up. Unfortunately they are the competition. This is what happens when there’s a monopoly.

    I say, fuck Google and Amazon and get those monopolies in check.

    • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      If it’s not Boeing then who? Santoclose? Airbus? China?

      Airbus. Easy answer. I’d rather fly on an A320 than a 737 anyway, especially an A320neo vs 737max.