Middle school removes bathroom mirrors to stop kids from making TikToks::Southern Alamance Middle School in Graham, North Carolina has taken drastic steps to reduce the time kids spend outside of class.

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    10 months ago

    Why not just smartphones in school? There’s ample research now that they’re harmful to teen mental health

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      10 months ago

      Is there research consensus on when children should be given phones? I would personally be very conservative about it, honestly.

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        10 months ago

        I agree! There’s a campaign pushing to avoid giving kids phones until 8th grade, but I think even that seems a bit too young

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      10 months ago

      I know a few schools in my area tried to institute zero tolerance no phones rule and the screaming from parents was loud enough that they gave up. One of the big sticking points was because of school shootings. Another was that schools have been bad about getting kids on the bus, that kids are getting lost or even ending up in bus depots at the end of the day.

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        10 months ago

        I think a good middle ground might be to ban smartphones but not phones entirely. If you want your kid to be able to call you, buy them a nokia or something without internet capabilities

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          10 months ago

          I mean the real reason is that parents are almost as bad as their kids with their phones. They have become accustomed to texting their children throughout the day.

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            10 months ago

            Wow, that is eye opening. I can’t imagine how bad helicopter parents can be these days…

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        10 months ago

        There are better tools these days than blanket prohibition.

        The signals that voice and data go over are different from each other, so not all modern cellphone jammers jam the entire spectrum. Some can be set up to allow voice calls over the traditional channels while jamming data. This forces students to use the school’s wifi network for any Internet connectivity, whereupon their connectivity to apps and services can be whitelisted/blacklisted as deemed necessary by system admins.

        Ergo, a system that keeps students off of their smartphones while allowing parental connectivity.

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          How do you only allow parent connectivity without allowing most everything else? Would this require schools to build an app specifically for them to allow through and make parents and kids use that? It sounds awful for everyone involved. A mildly determined and clever kid would probably be able to figure out how to circumvent the censorship anyways, and now you’re back at square one but with a bunch of useless infrastructure to maintain.

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          You’ll be so popular, with your dictator-like censorship of an organisation! How come no one even treats children like people, you wouldn’t find it acceptable to jam the mobile data of adults’ phones. Talk to the kids and encourage them to want to work at school, don’t be autocratic.

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          10 months ago

          I feel that might be an issue from 4G onwards, considering VoLTE and VoNR are intended to avoid the use of a separate voice network to their existing data network

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        10 months ago

        they kinda are Ireland, in primary school mostly but even in secondary school teachers are allowed to take your phone for 3 days if they see you on it

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        I spent 12 years in American public school during which greater than 70% of the student body had cell or smart phones and 100% of them were successfully banned. If the phone is visible during the school day and you aren’t currently receiving a phone call from the President or from your parents on their way to the hospital, phone goes in the teacher’s desk. You get it back at the end of the day.

        Its not that difficult at all.

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        What’s the difficulty? If they’re being used they’re out in the open, and if they’re out in the open they can be confiscated.

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        The front facing camera on iPhones is not great. Most kids have iPhones. I’m not willing to believe children who grew up with these phones don’t know their limitations.

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          The selfie camera, starting with iPhone 11 (both reg and pro) is 12MP, just like the main one. That’s plenty of good. Only the iPhone 15 line has 48MP main while retaining the 12MP selfie.

          Not sure what you are smoking.

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            10 months ago

            Resolution is hardly the only thing that matters for picture quality. The two cameras are quite different in that aspect.

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            10 months ago

            It’s probably my screen protector, now that I think about it.

            I will say with confidence its’ low light performance is dogshit.

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      10 months ago

      GOP’s master plot of defunding public schools is years in the making in NC. Teacher pay, at least before I left, was one of the worst in the nation. As a result, this is sadly on point for the area.

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      10 months ago

      So many people always seem determined to completely suck the joy out of schools, like it’s the 1950s again. Everything is so strict and anti-fun.

      TikTok and social media in general are popular amongst kids today. That’s just how it is. I think schools should try to embrace youth trends and find creative ways to incorporate them into the learning environment.

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    10 months ago

    Back in my day they removed mirrors so we wouldn’t summon Bloody Mary.