It’s just code for racism in the end. Always is.
They took our jobs!
Damn you JuanGPT and Manuel Diffusion
Derkaderrrr!!!
I found it hilarious when many California farmers (e.g. fruits) voted for Trump, then got angry when he immediately started cutting back on immigration - like what the hell did you think he meant when he talked about that EVERY SINGLE TIME!? That man isn’t exactly known for using “metaphors” or having the slightest degree of “subtlety” - e.g. when he talks about grabbing pussy, he doesn’t mean getting to know someone intimately, he means to GRAB someone’s ACTUAL genitalia, which simply being within arms reach seems to imply automatically giving consent, and if not then you can take it up with his team of lawyers.
After that, people started dying, and other things happened like infants were literally ripped right out of their mothers’ arms and I suddenly found it less funny:-(.
I guess arguably it could be funny to think how liberals get mad when the Democrats they vote for do not do what they promised, yet Trump supporters got mad at him when he did - if that situation were not so fucking tragic for us all:-(.
Edit:
I did like his debate with Hillary though. He completely burried her with the taxes thing, Soros and all that. He may be an ass, but he was dead on about that. Everyone uses the system, even the democrats.
Surely there are things that he says that I would even agree with - though I more often question how he says them (that is not me down-voting you though to be clear - a respectful conversation as you are doing is always welcome in my book).
e.g. I agreed with Hillary Clinton on the “ninth-month abortion” topic - there are only less than a handful of those all across the country, and at that point there is 0% chance that they are from irresponsible loose women forgetting to take a pill (or whatever the thinking is there) and 100% chance that it is a huge medical complication. Her answer there was “politicians should not be dictating such matters - that is a subject best left up to the experts and the patient to decide together”. She may be corrupt as sin and her answers were all focus-tested prior to delivery but… nevertheless she was right about that, imho.
Whereas his answer was “baby killer” - as if this literally heart-rending occurrence where the life of the mother is at stake and the loss of the fetus is virtually a foregone conclusion at that point was all besides the point.
They BOTH played the game in their respective ways there. And while I may not have liked her, I did like her answers, while his to that question was so incredibly juvenile that I could hardly believe my ears and eyes, seeing it from the leading candidate of an actual Presidential race. (btw funny video about it - she goes first but don’t worry, after the first minute he comes with some really great jabs:-P)
I would encourage you to remember though that even if you enjoyed his performance in the debate: he is so dumb that other people ended up pulling most of his strings after he got into office, and he never even realized how much he was being manipulated - in fact he still does not, years after-the-fact. Trump is not “conservative”, nor even quite “Republican” so much as a mad bull tearing through the china shop breaking everything that he
pleasestouches. A vote for him is a vote for anarchy, which sounds fun only to those who have neither experienced it nor studied history to realize what it truly means. imho at least, ofc take with a grain of salt (i.e. be properly skeptical), except it also happens to be shared by most people who study most matters all across thenationworld. When the experts (almost) all agree on something, it is either the largest conspiracy of all time ever, or else it just might be true!I agree that everyone uses the system… but not equally. She would have been a horrible President - more than half the nation agreed with you on that so hard that they outright handed the election to him (with deeds, not merely words) - but that does not in turn mean that he was a good one, and especially that he would be again.
Her answer there was “politicians should not be dictating such matters - that is a subject best left up to the experts and the patient to decide together”. She may be corrupt as sin and her answers were all focus-tested prior to delivery but… nevertheless she was right about that, imho.
Yep, do agree, she was right about that.
Though I also think she kinda did it to avoid answering… it’s a delicate subject, people get emotional, and she may lose votes if she doesn’t pass the hot potato.
(btw funny video about it - she goes first but don’t worry, after the first minute he comes with some really great jabs:-P)
Love those guys 😂. My favorite was with Stalin, Lennin and Yelcin 😂. Too bad they stopped doing them… at least I think they did 🤔.
I would encourage you to remember though that even if you enjoyed his performance in the debate: he is so dumb that other people ended up pulling most of his strings after he got into office, and he never even realized how much he was being manipulated - in fact he still does not, years after-the-fact. Trump is not “conservative”, nor even quite “Republican” so much as a mad bull tearing through the china shop breaking everything that he
pleasestouches. A vote for him is a vote for anarchy, which sounds fun only to those who have neither experienced it nor studied history to realize what it truly means. imho at least, ofc take with a grain of salt (i.e. be properly skeptical), except it also happens to be shared by most people who study most matters all across thenationworld. When the experts (almost) all agree on something, it is either the largest conspiracy of all time ever, or else it just might be true!Yep, I do agree about everything, he’s really just stupid.
But, you have to hand it to him. He just straight up answers, no beating around the bush. To (low IQ) people, that says “aaah, he’s honest”. The truth is, he’s a liar as well (what politician isn’t, lol 😂), but he’s a “truthful liar”. He answers like he doesn’t give AF, alfa male through and through attitude, f you attitude as well and… well, you gotta hand it to him, that wins low IQ hearts 😂. The trouble is, they have just as much right to vote as the rest of us 😂.
I think it is more complicated than that but… yeah - she is a soulless robot who would do, and say, ANYTHING to win. For instance, does anyone at all think that she actually carries around hot sauce in her purse everywhere that she goes? She said that, but she did not mean it. She is a politician and she LIED.
Also, Trump was not a politician, but he LIED too - remember when he said, before the primary, that if he won it then he would change the rules? However, immediately after that he said “why should I bother - I WON!?” Also, I seem to recall some chant of “lock her up”, but then immediately after that he was all like “why would do that? she’s nice people - she came to my wedding” Also, the Bob Woodward interview where he told him that he was going to lie in the future, saying that covid was not transmissable by air, and yet it was. Also… well, there’s a lot of examples, just like with her. So Hillary does not have a monopoly on lying.
Even so, her actions do tend to back up what she said: she tended to listen to experts, and the pandemic would have killed far fewer people if she had been in charge. She lies so often that sometimes she even tells the truth, just by accident? :-P So I think she would have followed up on that topic just as she said - not b/c she cared but just b/c it would be most politically expedient to have done so.
That said, she didn’t seem to genuinely care for anything but her own fame & glory (hey, remember when the Supreme Court told her to send over all of her emails, and she told them to take a hike? well, more precisely she told them that she’d do it when she felt like it, but only AFTER she removed all the ones that she didn’t want them to see - THAT IS WHAT SHE ACTUALLY SAID!?!?!?!). Though again, how was Trump any different? They are both shitty people, it’s just that Americans knew more about her than we did him, hence why the vote wasn’t so much “pro-Trump” as it was “anti-Hillary”, and we basically just rolled the dice to see whatever anti-Hillary would end up doing. It did not work out well, though it may not have worked well under her either - Congress would still have been flat-out broken either way, and neither would have helped heal the divide in this nation. Both sides need to stop putting up these jokers and put up someone who MAKES SENSE! :-(
Yes, he does answer questions more simply - if that were the only criteria for someone to be President then he should have won, in fact it’s a large part of why he did. And she answers questions with more weasly-worded phrases that mean nothing so as to let the medium-IQ people delude themselves into thinking that they are high-IQ ones (“hey, she said the thing that I wanted!? I’m so smart to have figured that out” - uh… no she didn’t, in fact if you pay attention, she ended up saying nothing at all). But if the question is “what is 1+1?”, then the answer is neither -1000000000000 (Democrats) nor “ur stUpId” (Republicans), so I firmly believe that neither side is working in our bests interests. On the other hand, one side is ready to literally overthrow the Constitution of the United States of America, even while claiming to do it out of love for that very document (which many admit to never having read in the first place).
I’m going to say something possibly controversial: not only do dumb people have just as much right to vote as smart ones, but smart people are not better people. That said, I am not looking to have a beer with the President of the United States, I want them for their role as a LEADER, for which yes a minimum level of intelligence should be required. Like in a football game, a certain minimum level of athletic prowess should be mandatory? So why look out into the audience and choose one of them, ignoring the ones who have trained for many years to become great at it? The only answer I can come up with is that people hated Hillary THAT MUCH - hence why she is the one who put him in office, arguably much more than he did. He was just trying to promote his latest reality TV show:-P.
Hey, I have heard that phrase “honest liar” before - here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfQCDaAa6s. Enjoy!:-P
Both sides need to stop putting up these jokers and put up someone who MAKES SENSE! :-(
I don’t think that will happen any time soon. If anyone with half a brain and not easily controllable comes in, you know what happens to those people… it’s a sad world we live in unfortunatelly…
And she answers questions with more weasly-worded phrases that mean nothing so as to let the medium-IQ people delude themselves into thinking that they are high-IQ ones (“hey, she said the thing that I wanted!? I’m so smart to have figured that out” - uh… no she didn’t, in fact if you pay attention, she ended up saying nothing at all).
Exactly, I’ve seen it 1000 times from different politicians. You hear what he’s/she’s saying and I’m like “uuuummm… am I stupid or did he/she didn’t answer anything 🤨?”. I’ve even rewond on cable to hear the conversation again… and the anchor is like “mhm, mhm, yeah… moving on…”… like how the fuck was that an answer 🤨. You just pulled out a lot of fancy words and said nothing.
But if the question is “what is 1+1?”, then the answer is neither -1000000000000 (Democrats) nor “ur stUpId” (Republicans), so I firmly believe that neither side is working in our bests interests.
Oh yeah, I’m way past that 😂. There was a time that I believed that at least some of the time they’re working in our interest. Not at all 😂. It just so happens that their business interests for that particular thing allign with the interests for the greater good 😂. And everyone praises them and they do press bullshit and whatnot… if people knew the reality, they’d be discuisted.
I’m going to say something possibly controversial: not only do dumb people have just as much right to vote as smart ones, but smart people are not better people.
Meeh, would agree. If you’re smart that doesn’t mean your moral compass is working correctly.
The only answer I can come up with is that people hated Hillary THAT MUCH - hence why she is the one who put him in office, arguably much more than he did.
I think it was a stunt in order to ensure Trump wins. But it had to be believable, so they couldn’t put a dummy out, so they pulled her out. Everyone hates her, everyone knows she’s a liar, smart, but a liar… my 2 cents.
Hey, I have heard that phrase “honest liar” before - here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWfQCDaAa6s. Enjoy!:-P
Damn, I love Dave Chappelle 😂. Liberals started hating him, but I think he just does what he does and just doesn’t give AF. Sure, he was a lot less into politics and life lessons and bitching about other people back in the day, but people fail to understand that he is way older now. Back then he used to be young, and well, when you’re young, you just don’t have life experience and don’t fully grasp what’s going on in the world, so you make jokes about weed and drinking and hoes, etc. But, as you get older, you see things just repeat in circles, things don’t get solved, yet politicians promise they will eventually get solved, and you start wondering, why don’t they get solved 🤔. And then you start looking deeper into things and after a while realize that the idea is for those things to stay as they are. If they change, we’d have to actually star working and caring about the people’s best interests, not our own, so why do that.
I completely get his POV, he’s not right, he’s not left, he’s homophobic (hey, no one’s perfect 🤷), but he’s a good comedian, and I believe a good person. He might say shit, but he will help you out if you need help.
Some people say that Biden has half a brain… and I think they are right!
Oddly enough, I don’t care - he seems to be doing… I cannot say “well”, but given what he faced when he first came in, definitely a far better job than I expected. At this point even if he were a robot puppet animated by people feeding his lines to him, I no longer care b/c it would be those handlers that we would be voting for. And yet would Kamala jump to the same tune as he does, or like Trump ignore the briefings and strike out on her own? So once again, we devolve to a “Hillary vs. Trump”, now “Kamala vs. Trump” standoff, each side trying to play chicken, daring the other side to back off. The truly heart-breaking tragic part of it is that in such a game, it is no guarantee that either side will “win”, and at some point it becomes quite likely that BOTH will lose.
I’ve spent a great deal of time trying to understand the weasel-wording, and what I came up with is this: anytime politicians say ANYTHING at all, they get judged for it, by some nutjobs somewhere. God exists, God does not exist, God exists and he loves people, God may or may not exist and he hates people, God yes/no exists and yes/no whatever whatever people, except he loves/hates YOU in particular, and so on. So the trick is to please the highest number of people by… saying nothing at all. Except that is too easily detected, hence the weasel wording, where they talk… but do not communicate. Then to complicate matters 1000x further, you are supposed to ignore all of that, and just focus on their voting record. Yes, ALL of those debates, the ENTIRE reason for their existence, is the profit of the media companies trying to sell them. They don’t “decide” anything, except for the tiniest, slimmest, barest sliver of people in the absolute middle who haven’t already made up their minds who they are going to vote for. Which might not even be 1% of the nation, though b/c of how polarized we are right now, might just swing the tide anyway?
So think of it like car salesmen: oh you are so smart, wow you have such a good eye, you know most people do not think to ask such insightful questions - BULLSHIT! And yet… you need a car anyway, right? It is extremely distasteful to anyone that prefers Truth over LIES, but what other way is there, than to engage in politics, or not engage and just watch the world burn? (This is fine meme)
And no I think Hillary literally thought that she would win - she managed to bully just about everyone on her own side from even so much as running (except Bernie Sanders who didn’t give a shit, and one other guy that nobody had heard of on the national scale), and then one of the various email leaks about her showed her illegal collusion with the DNC (e.g. she was given the questions that would be asked during the debate in advance, whereas he was not - giving her an enormous advantage). So “legally” (ha!) or not, she was going to push past all obstacles and take what she wanted by force. Arguably Trump may even have been put there to help HER win, but she seems to have underestimated just how much people HATED her, passionately even. Oopsie.
I mean, why would Trump want to take a huge pay cut to run the WH? Simply reading a teleprompter in front of a TV screen was a much sweeter gig - far less effort, plus far less grief too. Though once she lost, ahem I mean he “won”, his ego would not let him turn it down. Remember how he wanted to try and do both - be President and still do that TV show that he had previously signed a contract for!? :-P
I don’t think Dave Chappelle is homophobic, though he’s definitely transphobic, and there’s really something to that, as he explains: other people have a right to do whatever they want, but when YOU start telling ME what to do (i.e. in terms of mandatory pronoun usage), that’s the line that should not be crossed. Your rights (should) end where mine begin, and all that. And yeah, I do think he’d be friends with a trans person even - you don’t have to agree with someone 100% to enjoy one another’s company.:-D Though he’s tired of bending over backwards to all the woke BS, and so he draws the line in the sand - this far but no further. Bill Maher has switched to doing that now also - I used to not be able to stand that pretentious asshole, but now I see how often he’s right and thus he’s grown on me in spite of that.
BTW, if you want to watch a fairly short video that could literally change your view of politics forever - hey, I genuinely am not kidding on that! - here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs. I have re-watched it many times over the last several years and still cannot wrap my head around it. It uses LOGIC and FACTS but… I don’t wanna follow where it leads:-(.
Brainwashingcultural/societal influence from all of the various sources like Hollywood movies and just flat crowd-think from talking to almost literally everybody has quite a strong effect, and I realize that I am still under its sway. So anyway, be warned: this video can fuck you up, bigly :-| - but it does have the benefit of being true.Hm… I think you may have a point about Trump being a scapegoat for Hilary’s win. Never saw it like that, but yeah, you do have a point. His I don’t give AF attitude, his lack of word filtering (than again, republicans are like that, lol 😂)… not something a presidential candidate should be proud of, lol. And he is proud of that, you could tell, lol 😂.
From his POV, I can understand running for president. I mean, the man’s accomplished in almost every other aspect in life. The only other thing he wasn’t really balls in deep was politics, so he probably thought, this is my chance, now or never.
And yeah, I do think he’d be friends with a trans person even - you don’t have to agree with someone 100% to enjoy one another’s company.:-D
He even was.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WfNn3q9F3_I
That’s why I can’t say anything bad about the guy, even if he is homphobic or transphobic or whatever. I mean, no one’s perfect, he is like he is, and that’s fine, main thing is, he’s not a bad person.
Regarding the video, I actually presumed as much. Still, it was a nice video, watched it till the end. Facts are facts 🤷.
But, did you notice what was the root of the problem? I have, just haven’t phrased it like that and haven’t analyzed the subject like the guy on that channel has - money. Always have been, always will be. It litelarly is the root of all evil and unfair. The more you have, the more you want. Actually, it’s not exactly money per say, it’s just that money manifests this human trait all too well. It’s greed.
I’ve thought about this long and hard and no matter how I try and salvage things, to be as much as they are now, I always end up with the same conclusion. Radical changes have to be made in order for us to survive as a species. Our economic and social structures, as well as what (currently) defines us as himan. Well, maybe not that last part (at least not extesively), but yes, we do have to evolve and completely drop, on a species level, some things that we hold on to so dearly. Trouble is, humans only unite when faced with grave danger on a global scale, so… this will probably never happen in our lifetime, but if we were to survive, it must happen.
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We just played the anti-immigrant game in Florida. Harsh legislation passed, they ran away, and fuck me, crops are rotting in the fields.
There were a couple of business owners brave enough to say it out loud on video. “Well, yeah, we wanted this legislation, but just to kinda scare 'em. We didn’t think we’d actually lose our workers! Maybe we gotta rethink this whole thing.”
Props to those few self-aware SeaWolves. Some are getting it.
If you want slave labor, you gotta put up with slaves living on the plantation.
It’s okay, presidential immunity allows grabbing pussies.
/s but no joke
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They should feel privileged that he deigned to notice them, I guess. He big-um strong “man”, they being weak tiny women-folk and all. (this one yes \s)
I would be only half surprised if he or one of his follows became the world’s first man to get a surgery to graft on a second (no… ah… FIVE!) penises, just to prove how “masculine” he is.
Then he could show them off at every rally, by peeing on all the attendants. They would thank him for his service! :-P (extremely unfortunately, no \s on this one…)
It’s the same with the enemies of fascism
A fascists enemies are weak, unhealthy and can easily be overtaken by the superior strength of fascists.
While at the same time the enemies of fascists are also overpowering them, slowly destroying them because they are too powerful.
It’s always like that. Takes Jews for instance. They are inferior and the lesser race but at the same time somehow running the world from some secret society or something. They use the same arguments with blacks, women, gays, or whoever they want to hate that day.
Another thought that occurs is that it shows there is literally no path where they accept the immigrant - they’re upset if immigrants work, and they’re upset if they don’t. It literally just comes down to hating immigrants, and they work backwards from there to find reasons.
Actually both happen: low paying jobs lead to being below the poverty line and therefore eligible for welfare.
It’s not great; especially when companies like Walmart cash in on this by paying less and telling employees to apply for welfare.
Legitimate question. Can anyone tell me how someone would go collecting welfare with no SSN or papers?
I work with people on a daily basis that collect some sort of welfare or disability… They are in perfect bodily health. They are also all U.S citizens.
I don’t believe I have come across an undocumented migrant that collects “disability payments”. I don’t believe it’s possible…
No idea how that would work. An undocumented person at my mom’s work was “borrowing” someone else’s identity to get paid. So they were contributing to social security with no way to ever collect on it.
Here’s a list of all federal benefits that undocumented immigrants are eligible to receive:
https://www.ncsl.org/immigration/federal-benefit-eligibility-for-unauthorized-immigrants
States may or may not have additional programs.
I literally know an elderly lady who is alienated from her family in Europe and lives in California without any papers, money, or a job, and she has her own apartment and makes due somehow.
No I’m not saying she oughta be deported or have her benefits cut or anything (she’s not living a particularly glorious lifestyle, believe me), just answering the question that was asked.
My fiancee works at the welfare office in downtown Pittsburgh, PA. I literally just asked her and she said, “They can potentially get approved for medical assistance if it’s an emergency, but they’re not going to be able to get something like food stamps as an illegal immigrant.” Other states might be different, but that’s at least PA.
In fascist rhetoric the enemy is always both weak and strong. It’s a real easy indicator that you’re hearing propaganda.
Not being political here, just thinking logically. Isn’t it possible for a subgroup of a large group to do X while another subgroup of the same large group does Y?
I’m not sure if these options are mutually exclusive when it comes to large sets of individuals.
This is just logical thinking, I have no statistics and this is not a political stance.
That was my first thought as well. Assuming a large enough amount of immigrants, they could be overwhelming both the welfare system and the job market. A sufficiently large group of additional people would overwhelm every system, and depending on the preexisting conditions, that group might not need to be all that big
It’s kinda hard to overwhelm the job market tho, at least if the economy is growing. In that case, more workers would likely facilitate growth, since the growing workforce will also have money to spend and create demand. If the market was already very competitive, things would be different, but developed countries are usually hungry for skilled workers. Demographics dictate this will only become more true as time passes
I guess that explains how republicans are incompetent but also easily destroy the country during 4 years in power
The narrative of friends and family from the small town I grew up in and left, to rarely if ever revisit, reason that the immigrants work illegally for cash at meat packing plants, roofing, etc. This while drawing benefits, as unregistered/illegal immigrants. I don’t know how an undocumented person could collect benefits. Frankly I don’t know enough about any of it to say whether their narrative is accurate or not.
I have always held the opinion that even if their likely false narrative is true, those sound like extremely hard working folks being exploited and taken advantage of and points to an underlying problem that immigrants are not effectively integrated into our society through accessible legal procedures in a way that enables them to positively impact society to the greatest extent of their potential. I’d bet with living wages these folks would be filling up trade schools and all kinds of additional skilled labor roles that would be built upon and advanced generationally. I don’t understand why a country wouldn’t want injection of realized opportunity and advancement into its society, economics, and culture.
Technically possible if collecting welfare IS your job.
