• prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Other voters in swing states had real issues with the economy, crime

    In other words, they were lied to and bought it hook, line, and sinker.

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      These voters had issues and concerns.

      Trump addressed them.

      Kamala and the DNC shamed them and only said it would be worse under Trump.

      Voters are worried about the economy. It was the number one issue, especially in swing states.

      Trump had a news conference and talked about how expensive beans are.

      Kamala had a news conference where she talked about how the economy was already better, while embracing Dick Cheney and 80 corporate CEOs.

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        Right. We are facing very complex problems that have no simple answers.

        People want a simple answer, and that’s what Trump gave them. Truth is irrelevant.

        The problem is that people on the left tend to actually have ethics and morals.

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          Kamala didn’t even talk about these issues for the most part. She barely discussed the few tiny things Biden actually accomplished that helped these voters.

          Her political messaging was 💩 because again, she has no real values. She will comply with her donors no matter what they request of her.

          In short, she does not care about her constituency.

          Both Biden and Kamala are to the right of center on the political spectrum. Biden has taken more AiPAC money than any other US politician in history, and Netanyahu still bitch slapped Biden for not groveling hard enough.

          This is the current political class.

          Trump, as weird as he is…. Is not in the political class. He is not an establishment politician, and it’s refreshing to see someone do something independently of their “friends and colleagues” in Washington. In my personal opinion, trump is a rambling buffoon who only cares about his own ass. But I believe a lot of voters like him because he is something different, and after more than half a century of establishment politicians who are full of smiling lies and bullshit, Trump is a unique character on the us political stage. He also talks about issues these voters care about.

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          The problem is that people on the left tend to actually have ethics and morals.

          And you have made it clear that you prefer they have none.

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            What’s your actual endgame then?

            I see you talking a lot of shit but you don’t actually have anything constructive to say. Makes it look like you’re just arguing in bad faith or worse.

            I have a question for you: how is your support of Harris any different than anyone elses?

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              What’s your actual endgame then?

              It’s certainly easy for people who want the status quo to never change to demand an endgame from those that want it to change.

              I see you talking a lot of shit but you don’t actually have anything constructive to say.

              You want constructive? Ok. Gee, it’s great how the “good” party is supporting genocide. Best shit ever. Glad they were willing to go to bat for Netanyahu even though it meant losing to Trump.

              I have a question for you: how is your support of Harris any different than anyone elses?

              I don’t expect her to be exempt from criticism, and I don’t scream that anyone who doesn’t love genocide and only genocide like you do is a Russian like you did in our other conversation.

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                It’s certainly easy for people who want the status quo to never change to demand an endgame from those that want it to change.

                That’s an incorrect assumption and doesn’t answer the question.

                You want constructive? Ok. Gee, it’s great how the “good” party is supporting genocide. Best shit ever. Glad they were willing to go to bat for Netanyahu even though it meant losing to Trump.

                Your candidate (remember you said you voted Harris) supported that so gtfo with your righteous indignation. If you want to play that game you’re to blame as well.

                I don’t expect her to be exempt from criticism, and I don’t scream that anyone who doesn’t love genocide and only genocide like you do is a Russian like you did in our other conversation.

                OK? Criticize all you like, that’s what I was doing before you decided that somehow YOUR support for Harris was different than every other persons on lemmy.

                So I’ll ask again, how did you support Harris but aren’t a genocide supporting democratic voter but think others are?