What happens when a school bans smartphones? A complete transformation | US education | The Guardian::Teachers say mobile phones make their lives a living hell – so one Massachusetts school barred them

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 months ago

    According to the United States, it’s appropriate to imprison children for delinquency that is things that are criminal for children that are not criminal for adults.

    So no, I have little faith regarding what my society decides is right for kids.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 months ago

        The notion that some things may be inappropriate for kids is easly misused when it’s turned into a principle and as such we end up where the US is now, withholding civil rights from children and using child safety to push identity politics.

        I do hope you are not a parent.

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          10 months ago

          I hope you aren’t either. You probably try to make everything into a political diatribe.

          Actually, I hope you don’t have kids, because you are clearly not a parent, regardless of whether you’ve been able to spawn.

          • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            I’m not a parent, a point that has informed my relationship with my stepdaughters and grandson. When we lived in the same household, they still had their respective dads, for better or worse, and I couldn’t replace them. As a friendly adult, my role was to affirm to my wife’s kids that their feelings are valid even when they couldn’t express them with the sturm und drang they warranted.

            Of what I’ve seen of parents, including my own, their jobs commonly leave them far to exhausted to actually parent (or run a household, or relax, or engage in their civic responsibilities). Industry has long driven society to intergenerational mental illness, and kids are often having to confront adult situations early.

            But yes, events and policy in Florida and Texas have shown us that it is en vogue in places to withhold information from children, not so much to protect them, but to keep them from questioning the values of their parents, teachers, ministers and officers who direct them. Efforts to obstruct access to porn turn quickly into efforts to obstruct access to health information, to LGBT+ content, to the darker chapters of US and western history, to alternatives to capitalism, to even the beatitudes.

            To be fair, Moms For Liberty and the adults making scenes at PTSA (PTA?) meetings don’t represent all parents, and I actually kinda hope they aren’t parents (or as you noted, progenitors) themselves. But we naked apes don’t typically choose to breed for the benefit of our spawn, but because we want the cute thing, not thinking about the outraged, frustrated teen they will grow into, or the struggling, beleaguered adult struggling to fit into a society that wants to use and discard them like an expendable mechanical part.

            Kids don’t know the difference between ignorance and innocence. That is a projection placed onto them by society, and I think kids should have the same access to information on the clitoris or plantation economics or communism or Sappho of Lesbos as they do Alexander Hamilton, the steam engine, Christopher Columbus and Washington Irving.

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              10 months ago

              I never said anything about restricting access to information. We’re talking about banning phones from classrooms, which I see as no different from not letting kids drive cars.