Summary

The US’s approval for Ukraine to use U.S.-supplied ATACMS missiles, capable of striking targets nearly 200 miles away, marks a significant escalation in Ukraine’s ability to retaliate against Russian aggression.

The move, coming after intense lobbying by Kyiv, allows Ukraine to target Russian positions with more precision and destruction than prior weapons.

Russia has condemned the decision as a provocation risking world war.

Analysts suggest the policy shift, reportedly limited to Russia’s Kursk region, aligns with U.S. efforts to support Ukraine without triggering broader conflict.

  • AItoothbrush@lemmy.zip
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    8 months ago

    In other words russias invasion of ukraine could cause a world war. Its not the ukrainians who decided to fuck around with russians.

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        8 months ago

        Ah yes, tell us more about how Russia’s sudden invasion and annexization of Crimea following Euromaidan was the fault of US backed Ukrainians.

        Best case, you’re going to blame this on the fact that native Ukrainians staged a revolution to remove their corrupt president that was trying to buddy up with the sovereign that has been abusing and betraying them since 1941. To which I say, good for them. The annexation of Crimea came during the power vacuum following that when Putin saw that his good buddy sycophant Yanukovych had been removed by a hostile electorate. Putin saw his slaves trying to make a break for freedom and decided to bring his fist down on it.

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          Any suggestion that Crimea doesn’t prefer being in Russian Federation compared to under nazi rule committed to destroying them is delusional propaganda. Crimea was transferred to Ukraine in late 1950s. No one there had to bother learning Ukrainian language and little Ukrainian emigration occurred there.

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      8 months ago

      I’m kind of hopeful, actually, that the fact that they are publically whining so much about escalating to a world war is an indication that they don’t have the means to do so, short of going Nuclear, and I think even Putin realizes how that will end up.

      I mean, he is already bringing in foreign fighters. isn’t that a concession that Russian fighters can’t do the job in Ukraine themselves? If they had the means to escalate while still fighting in Ukraine, they wouldn’t whine about it, they would just do it.

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        8 months ago

        What’s extra sickening to me, is that this cat has no trouble operating under the assumption that his own life, and power, and glory, are worth these unending untold thousands of other lives, when in actuality his life is worth less than any one of these soldiers’.

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    8 months ago

    The commencement of whining about how the victim defending themselves is horribly unfair, unreasonable, and must be stopped at all costs, is always a feature of bullying. I don’t know why, but it is.

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    8 months ago

    It is unclear how if these are US operated missiles, and authorization was for Kursk region, how they all got fired at Bryansk.

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    8 months ago

    Russia brought another country in to fight. Full stop. Theatrics.

    And I think it’s likely. And it’s their fault.

    Edit: We lose too, btw. Head in the clouds, cocks in our hands, and then everyone is going to wonder why the power went out and the taps went dry on day one.

    I swear half the US wants it because they think they’ll wipe the floor gg and go back to drinking.

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      8 months ago

      For any of this to lead to “world war” one of two things has to happen:

      1. The US directly enters the war on the side of Ukraine - If this didn’t happen at any point in the last two years, it’s not suddenly going to happen now. And it’s not more likely to happen because the US “provokes” Russia, so it’s irrelevant anyway.

      2. Russia directly attacks a NATO country - Why would Russia ever do this? They can’t even defeat a NATO aligned independent nation. How the fuck would they ever have a hope in hell of defeating all of NATO? In what possible way would they benefit from escalating the war?

      Russia claiming that American “provocations” will lead to world war is meaningless because the reality is that for them to be “provoked” into starting a war they would have to be provoked into voluntarily deleting their entire country.

      No matter how badly this hypothetical world war 3 goes for anyone else, even if - no, especially if - it becomes a total nuclear war, the one guarantee is that Russia loses. And they lose hard. Putin’s best case scenario here is great he Hitler’s himself in a bunker in a few years and that’s if he’s lucky.

      So unless Putin and every single person in his orbit have joined a suicide cult and are already cooking up a big old bowl of spicy Kool-Aid, there is no reason whatsoever to take these claims seriously.

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        8 months ago

        Serious question:

        What about China and Xi Jinping? North Korea has already thrown they’re very flimsy and small hat into the ring…barely, but they did send troops.

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          What about them? Suppose China sends 100,000 troops to Ukraine? How does that expand the conflict in any way?

          This is the problem with people just buying this Russian line about America “escalating” the conflict. Increasing the scale or intensity of the conflict in Ukraine has zero bearing on its scope. China entering the war doesn’t force America, or any other NATO country, to suddenly become involved.

          It doesn’t matter if China sends a million troops. Ten million. At the end of the day the conflict is still between Ukraine, Russia, and Russia’s co-beligerants. Even if Ukraine somehow ended up invading China, this still doesn’t directly involvre NATO in the war.

          The only thing that can possibly involve NATO is either NATO choosing to get directly involved, or some opposing party directly attacking NATO. And none of those opposing parties have anything to gain by attacking NATO. So why would they?

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              Sorry if I seem like I’m getting a little bent out of shape about this stuff. It frustrates me because Russian propaganda in this area has been far, far more successful than it has any right to be. It’s extremely easy to see through once you sit back and examine the basic mechanics of the situation, but I understand that that’s difficult to do when being faced with something as terrifying as the threat of a global conflict.

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    8 months ago

    Russia has been rattling the World War saber for so long that it’s lost all meaning. It’s like they’re copying North Korea’s homework when it comes to international threats.

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    8 months ago

    Newsflash: there is already a war. A one Russia can end tomorrow if they fuck off back into their borders.

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    8 months ago

    Lmao. Imagine if North Korea would tell Putler that he is not allowed to use their soldiers for offense.

    Russia should have been thankful there were restrictions on the weapons Ukraine received.

    It’s such a baby move.

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      I’m so glad I just retired from the US military. I’d hate to be serving while that dictator asshole comes back. I was still serving the first time he took office and it was bad times for us. We were able to push back on his more extreme demands of the military, but we don’t have a Democrat-controlled govt to keep him in check this time around.

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        More importantly, we don’t have any morally upstanding senators with the balls to hold the fucking Republicans in line. Even McCain had to find out he was dying of brain cancer before he stood against the machine to defend the right to healthcare.

        Please correct me if I’m wrong, but there aren’t any Republicans left that will do that.