Shocked Pikachu face meme.

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    2 years ago

    Surely, attacking the mods of a community and calling them whiny babies will get you what you want, right?!

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        I never fully understand that, is that an insult? English ain’t my first language and I was honestly not sure if I felt offended by that lol, I swear I looked for it on the web, but it wasn’t clear for me either.

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          To give you some background on the term, it refers to rich land owners in England who had a lot of inherited wealth through the estates they owned (landed, meaning they own land). These “gentry” generally led lives of leisure and wealth, but they didn’t actually do anything, they just inherited it all through their family wealth and land ownership.

          I’m sure I have details of that a little off, but that’s my best explanation of it.

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          “Landed gentry” was a social class of people who owned estates and, well, land. They didn’t have to work; they made their income by profiting off the work of the farm hands, merchants, etc, who worked on their land. The estates these landed gentry owned, along with their wealth, would be passed down to their children when they died. It meant the gentry did very little to earn their station in life, but still had a fair amount of power and wealth.

          How spez thinks it applies to Reddit mods, I’m not entirely sure. But he definitely meant it as an insult. His full quote was:

          And I think, on Reddit, the analogy is closer to the landed gentry: The people who get there first get to stay there and pass it down to their descendants, and that is not democratic.

          So I guess he was upset that mod teams get to select who else is a good fit to join the mod team? Of course, the issue is that he is the landed gentry - users didn’t vote for him, nor can they remove him; and he’s profiting off the work of the people who post content and the people who spend their time moderating.

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            He has to just be riling up the “freeze peach” crowd with that line. He must know that a “users vote” way of selecting mods is always going to be a race to the bottom in terms of diversity and quality as nobody with a unique vision is going to subject themselves to the will of a bunch of reddit-brained people.

            When I was part of the Vaxxhappened protest I came to the realization that pretty much all mods of big communities are not “power happy” autocrats, but on the whole surprisingly weak-willed and living in a perpetual fear of getting removed. It was sad, but I have to imagine Reddit Inc is very happy with the arrangement. These people are working 24/7 for free, on one of the many indistinguishable feeds of memes. I was very surprised the API protest happened to the degree it did at all.

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        I’m a motherfuckin user. I log onto this website sometimes. That means I dictate when you shit and for how long. Just be glad your breathing is out of my control. For now.

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        People have gotten fucking insane with this “Everybody should do exactly what I think they should do at all times full stop and if they don’t they’re literal fucking garbage, and if you disagree or care about a different thing than me you’re just a whiny baby whining about baby stuff” mentality.

        I’m a lefty, and it’s an election year which means I get to deal with this for 10 months straight from the dems.

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          And if there is a CHANCE you might do something they don’t like…they cancel their primaries

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          God you’re telling me. I’m a right winger, and I am not looking for to voting for the 77 year old orange just because the GOP can’t figure out how to do a primary.

          Still going to do it because of the issues at hand, but I’m not happy about it. I just hope he doesn’t pull a 2nd round of bump stocks.

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          Unless you’re a mod. Then it’s “Everybody should do exactly what I think they should do at all times or ban.”

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      Lemmy isn’t any better, I’m only here because it works better on mobile

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        I don’t use Reddit as much as I used to since the API change. I also don’t use Lemmy much either. It feels different since that moment to me. Both feel quite divisive and don’t get me wrong, Reddit was divisive before the change but it feels like it’s got a lot worse.

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      It’s infinitely more active than this site. The discussion is equally shitty. The difference is people here feel self righteous…

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    Oi @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ! Are you one of the Reddit Piracy mods? Or are one of your brethren here from Reddit?

    I must say I find Piracy, Linux and the Star Trek communities have had a rip-roaringly successful switch over.

    I much prefer Lemmy. I have the opportunity to call you a “dick head” whereas on Reddit there’s no way Spez would ever see me calling him a “dick head”.

    That makes me feel powerful and I become engorged.

    So, anyway, are you one of the Reddit mods?

    P.S. I can’t post to this community from Lemmy.World.

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    All my subreddits that I moderated went to shit after the protests. I stopped, the replacements stopped, the sudden influx of shitty posts and shady users drove off the normal communities.

    Fuck em. I haven’t felt the urge to post on reddit in months and it’s lovely knowing the people I’m interacting with probably aren’t rabid fascists unless they’re Lemmy.world pissbabies.

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        /r/snackexchange/ - I made it a protest subreddit by embracing Spez’s call for user democracy. Every day every single thing about the subreddit would be reset and users would have to vote for every aspect. The only rules were that you couldn’t abolish democracy and you couldn’t abolish me as the caretaker. /u/Icxcnika was a weird little goober who took it seriously instead of seeing it as a protest meant to derail the subreddit. He voted to make himself mod for a day and then the admins did a mod coup to make him the head, even over the other two mods that had been there for a decade and built all of the third-party tools we relied on to make the subreddit work. He had only posted once, some 8 or 9 years before, and had never moderated. The users and other mods fucking hated him and activity in the subreddit fell off. Now he no longer posts, one of the other mods no longer posts, and the last remaining one is apparently now a bot that sells funko pops.

        /r/fifthworldproblems/ - The other mods and I were all on board with the protest. They forced us back open so we refused to do anything. Now it’s restricted and the only link posted since the protest was a Lemmy instance that I didn’t have anything to do with.

        /r/modernart - I started rebuilding this one after it was overtaken by spam from people who don’t know what “modern art” actually means. I want to keep the subreddit because there’s good radicalisation potential with it in the right hands, but I stopped posting and only remove the most obnoxious spam days after it’s reported to tank the quality of the subreddit. I’ll be replacing everything with a Lemmy instance link at some point but was always holding out for Hexbear to open up community creation.

        I had a few others that I just left or let the admin bot take over.

        • bazingabrain [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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          i followed the snack exchange subreddit thing from day one, that little piece of shit was so utterly removedish in so many ways. First time i genuinely wanted to doxx someone because YOU KNOW that dork looks like so-true irl

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            He was weird. In addition to the posts on the daily election threads, he was sending me PMs that were flattering in a way Patrick Bateman would compliment someone. Everything was blatantly manipulative and worded in a way that was simultaneously an interrogation I knew he was feeding to the admins. Then the dog caught his car and had to drive it while everyone else on the road screamed at him. I think he lasted like three days before handing over control to one of the mods who was so offended that they quit the website.

            Nothing irks me more than someone who can’t handle positive chaos or slight inconvenience. He was so determined to stop the protest which was only over us not being able to moderate the subreddit without those third-party tools, all to preserve the sanctity of a community he hadn’t interacted with in almost a decade. There’s something deeply pathological about a power grab like that. Like what the fuck.

          • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            It was fun at its high point. The problem was like you said, always the same map. Shipping costs run like $20-150+ and that’s a month’s wage in many of the countries that have interesting snacks we aren’t already over-saturated with. Scams were only ever like 5% of trades at most and we never had a poisoning though, so overall a successful prototype of the thing that would work.

  • frogbellyratbone_ [e/em/eir, any]@hexbear.net
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    that’s the piracy sub… the userbase was pissed at the idiot mods taking the sub down for the API protest, which reddit was obviously super happy about the pirate sub closing down.

    i’m pretty sure they regularly railed against the idiot mods to the point that the mods said fuck this and left

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      I guess this is how they’ll learn about the effects of ruining the experience for moderators and content creators, a majority of Reddit’s scabs are consumers so naturally when creators and mods leave quality goes in the toilet.

      which reddit was obviously super happy about the pirate sub closing down.

      Oddly it wouldn’t seem entirely like that since when it shut down they basically forced it to reopen. Which is funny since they dislike it so much, guess the traffic and ad revenue is more important to them.

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    The BS in the last comment aside, what about the meme needs moderating? Was it a repost, or is the argument it makes unacceptable on reddit’s piracy board?

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    Piracy mods are few of the mods with a backbone that actually left reddit because of all the bullshit.

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        I mean, even a lot of the bigger lemmy instances are of mixed thought on whether to federate with “piracy” instances (I want to say lemmy.world federated and defederated a couple times?).

        Reddit Corporate is trying to go public. The piracy subs were going to be purged sooner than later and The Exodus was an opportunity to move the community en masse.

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      I don’t think the worlds remaining sea pirates are very technical, or smart at all for that matter.

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          “Students who have completed Archery, Fencing, Pistol (Air Pistol or Rifle) and Sailing should send an email to…”

          When a university education becomes a fantasy story meme. At least if you’re attending MIT, you’re probably multiclassed into some kind of technomancer.

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            I mean, it’s just a piece of paper for competing an otherwise random set of extracurricular activities. MIT students do memes all the time. Well, they use to. I think the administration is trying to crack down on fun stuff.

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    Love how they bellyache about the mods not doing a good enough job when they spent the final weeks of the June protest harassing the existing mods and and basically dismissing and disrespecting all the work we were doing for the past decade. They just expected things to go back to business as usual and the mods should just shut up and continue doing unpaid janitorial duties for the benefit of spez out of sheer momentum I guess? The scale of their entitlement is unreal.

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        I always laughed when someone called us a “janitor” after we banned them. Like you understand in this analogy you are the trash being taken out, right?

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          It’s probably just because janitor is the term for a low level mod on 4chan.

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      Yeah, that was part of the reason I decided to leave. I mean, it wasn’t the only reason by far, but just another item to snowball into the “fuck this platform” that pushed me to leave.

      The number of people that actively told me I was dumb, abusing power, and my moderating could be done by anyone was crazy.

      Then they bitched about the moderation quality going down when 50% of the moderation actions walked out the door.

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    What a goofy interpretation of that series of events. Reddit changes API which fucks over moderators -> mods protest and say if they can’t use these tools they can’t moderate -> when API restrictions come into effect, mods either leave over moderating being way harder now or basically not being able to mod

    Why is that final step so hard for this person to believe? All of Reddit moderation wasn’t lying to people for fun

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      Also wasn’t the sub basically taken over by one mod who spends their time working their way into as many moderator positions as possible and then not doing anything with them? Looking at their post history they’ve made like a dozen posts in the last month and one of them was asking to mod another sub.

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      Why is that final step so hard for this person to believe? All of Reddit moderation wasn’t lying to people for fun

      You are so naive to believe they even were aware of step 1 lol.

      They just were mad at their favorite subreddits being closed against their will, that and just being inconsiderate pricks.

      What amused me back then is that in most of the subreddits I was subbed there were polls where mods were gonna act as the results said, (we were basically running against the time, so there were not very many alternatives for this kind of democracy, I add this note because many people were very mad and argued they never got to nor realize there was an ongoing poll lol) and more users approved to keep the protests and regardless these cunts were saying that this was mod’s power abuse lol.

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    Don’t they understand the mods leaving is a consequence of that “tantrum”?

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      Probably not, I doubt they even understand what the fuss was even about and are now wondering why quality has gone down so much and why subs are becoming full of spam and reposes.

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      They’re clearly using shaming tactics. By calling it a “tantrum” they try to make those mods look childish. In reality the mods demanded something to make their jobs easier, the company refused, so they parted ways.

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        Not “job”, they are “volunteering contribution”, that are not only time consuming, mentally consuming, and unpaid as well.

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          Hello, I’m meep_launcher, and I’m a recovering moderator.

          Not only did my tools get taken, after the mass exedus, my mod queue exploded. There were so many more racist reports than before, and I was mod of a political satire subreddit.

          Turns out the exedus took all the left leaning redditors leaving behind real pieces of work.

          Glad I made the switch, and I set up anarchycartography here, so maybe I can get back to doing what I love, shitposting maps.

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            Yes, same on the explosion to mod queue. I modded a sub for a traditionally male-dominated hobby but we had a really positive environment (mostly) for the few women members and any who happened to pop their heads in with a newbie question.

            That turned quick, and women were being flooded with “well if you don’t like it, you don’t belong here”, “you should carry a gun at all times to protect yourself or just stay home” victim blaming type stuff. One of many reasons I peaced out, as did so many of the long-time members (men and women) who no longer saw the community they had built.

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                Tried clicking on that link, got this error…

                The server returned this error: FetchError: invalid json response body at [Redacted]. This may be useful for admins and developers to diagnose and fix the error

                I’m assuming you were trying to link to here?

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                  Like Trainguyrom wrote, you’re probably the first user on your instance trying to access it. Try the link again. It’s the proper way to link to communities using Lemmy. Your link doesn’t give people on other instances the easy option to subscribe to the community.

                  EDIT: Interestingly enough it looks like someone went through the first page of my profile and downvoted each comment of mine. Hmmm, how very strange ;P

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              Finally, the rail system U.S. deserves, old, loud, slow, never on time, and is under maintenance EVERY! F**KING! WEEKEND!

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              I’ve just been uploading to imgur and then posting the direct link. Lemm.ee won’t allow direct image uploads, so we kinda need to Jerry rig it for the time being. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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      Asking anyone who didn’t leave reddit to “understand” anything is an exercise in futility. Their brain lack the wrinkles, because they only eat eucalyptus leaves.

  • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
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    “If you don’t like spez decision, then just open up the sub and leave!”

    Mods left

    “Where is all the mods?”

    “They’re just butthurt they didn’t get any support hue hue hue”

    Internet is a funni place.

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      I’ll be honest here: it was pretty fun to respond to people going “well if you hate it here so much, then just leave!“ To which I responded: “I did, check the sidebar.“ I stuck around for a few days after to help the mods with a few unruly threads, banned a few problem users on a different sub I was just sick of, then left forever.