• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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      And we can thank a lot of the “Holocaust Harris” and “Blue MAGA” “don’t vote for genocide” assholes for that too.

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        No.

        We can thank the Dems and DNC who thought accepting millions in Israeli lobbying was worth handing the country to Trump.

        It’s the Democrats fault, not the voters.

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          Fuck no it wasn’t. This is entirely, 100% the fault of the electorate. Get out of here with that trash.

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          Yes, I know. Now that the election is over, all those people (I am guessing you were one of them based on your reply) screaming about how voting for Harris means voting for genocide had nothing to do with her losing at all.

          After all, telling people not to vote for a candidate only helps them win, am I right?

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            How’d backing genocide and getting support from war criminals and white nationalists go for winning votes?

            But sure it was the people against literal genocide that are the problem.

            We didn’t lose because we weren’t running, this loss is 100% on the Democratic Party.

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              But sure it was the people against literal genocide that are the problem.

              Yes. Yes you are. Because you allowed the guy who said that Netanyahu should “finish the job” on national TV get into office.

              You didn’t only make that genocide worse, you let the guy who is going to start genocides of brown and queer people domestically into office.

              You can claim you’re against genocide, but you’re only lying to yourself.

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        I don’t think blaming voters is a good idea. There were signals that people would be more likely to vote for Harris if she, for example, agreed to stop sending arms to Israel (more than the voters she’d lose by doing that). The campaign ignored that… if they tell you what they want and you ignore it that’s kinda on you. Trying to rehab the Republican party (“Country over Party”) instead of going out there and hammering home her policy, how she would make things better for voters… there were lots of mistakes made.

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        Does that math check out? How about the math that shows how Harris didn’t even peel off an extra 1 percent of registered republicans, despite pandering so hard to the right.

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          The problem isn’t the values. The values don’t matter when they are complete fiction and tailored for bubbles. The problem is that Cambridge Analytica has served as a basis for what to do, not as a basis for what not to do, and societies and democracies are getting treated like cattle with the biggest giveaway being the world richest man outright buying a social network and abusing it as he has and the people who should be most aware and reactive to it acting like if it isn’t a core portion of the problem.

          This comedy bit mocks what is happening now with all the political mud slinging regarding the loss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPHH5trgC1w

          And all the better that the animals in the animal farm fight against each other lest they realize whom they are a victim of.