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Democrats bet on appeals to neoconservatives — including war criminals like Dick Cheney — and touted harsh border policies, bolstering rather than challenging Republican anti-immigrant frameworks.
Kamala Harris may have relied on women to vote for abortion rights, but she promised little more than a potential return to the flawed and insufficient norm of Roe v. Wade, at best. Like President Joe Biden, she supported a genocide and failed to distinguish herself from extremist Zionists like Trump.
For Democrats, appealing to the right has been a disaster of realpolitik, especially in an electoral system that structurally favors Republicans anyway. But what’s worse, Democratic strategies have failed and harmed the most vulnerable communities both in the U.S. and those who suffer under the yoke of U.S.-backed wars.
There is an urgent need for social justice movement organizing, growing unions and union power, antagonism rather than acquiescence to existing power structures, and expansive networks of care and support. The most powerful social movements of the last decades did not primarily build on support from Democratic leadership under Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or Joe Biden. Nor did they collapse during Trump’s first tenure.
How do you think revolution works? You cannot simply violently take to the streets whenever you feel like it. You need to build up critical amounts of support or you’ll just be considered terrorists at best. A poll a while ago showed more Americans want a party to the right of repiblicans than ones who want one to the left of democrats. There are less leftists in America than any other political group and we have to fight against the entire US medias narrative to build that critical support. I love the open hostility to the smallest political group in America for not being able to save the whole fucking country with violence.
I think revolution works by having people revolt.
Again, this glorious revolution has been coming for my whole life. And before it. Phil Ochs sang a song about it in 1966.
And yet, it never comes. So how many more decades is it going to take?
If it happens after I’m dead, it’s not especially helpful.
So go revolt. You said you’re 47. What do you have to lose? Start. Pick a Target.
What have I got to lose? My daughter, first of all. Also, when has a lone revolutionary picking a random target every accomplished anything they set out to do?
Well then maybe stop bitching at others for not going first. You don’t want to do it so maybe you should pipe down.
I never said I wanted to do it in the first place. That’s the people constantly talking about setting up guillotines and never doing so.
Oh you made that very clear, you don’t want to do anything, you’re just really into bitching at others for not doing it.
Bitching? No. I find the cosplay very amusing.
If you think a revolution is a simple as revolting, I encourage you to go do that instead of insisting others make the world better for you. You clearly must know something no other leftist has figured out with how simple your revolution plan is.
I would argue that a small group of people taking actual action would indeed inspire others to do the same. It’s just that nobody wants to take the risk of being that first person carrying the torch.
Well I can’t say nobody, two have tried so far.
I think that if it hasn’t happened in the last 60 years, it’s probably not going to happen in the next 60.
And I’m not the one constantly talking about guillotines.
Then I suppose you’re left with no options but to continue voting for one of the two parties that got us here. But if you’re going to critisize revolutionaries then say you have no better ideas and are not trying, you look like a sports fan who thinks they could have caught the ball the athlete dropped.
Nope, my option is to use my dual citizenship and get the fuck out of here before my daughter is put in a conversion camp and forced to go into the closet.
Sorry, not willing to sacrifice her waiting for your revolution.
Then you really have no ground to bash revolutonaries since you no longer even have stake in the fight your critisizing them over. Enjoy your new country I won’t tell you how to be a citizen there, and you can leave the rest of us who cannot afford to flee to fight the fascism however we can.
I can bash whoever I want. And you don’t get to tell me otherwise.
And your sneering response to doing what I can to keep my queer child safe is something I’ve gotten from a lot of my fellow American leftists over the past few months. I’ll be glad to be rid of it.
Sneering? I genuinely wished you well in your new country and simply asked you to leave us alone. If you’re not going to fight, you have little right to tell others how to do it. You’re simply yelling from the sidelines at people you insist on not working with. The very people you want to bash are the ones who go out of their way to protect people the cops wont.
In my area when the local fash org dropped stacks of hateful rhetoric flyers specificly on just the doorstep of a trans person they doxed, the police were not the ones who sent somone to walk the perimiter day and night for a week. Its was the group of people you insist aren’t fighting the way you’d fight.
It takes a special kind of entitlement to think a group of people you do not wish to help should act the way you want them too. You wouldn’t expect the government to listen to people who don’t show up to vote, why would a group you dont show up to listen to you?