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I do truly look forward for it 🤗

  • the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    You started off by saying my sources are bad, which is, by definition, disagreeing with them. Also, you haven’t explained how imprisoning people for going outside and censoring information isn’t fascist. I’m certain that fascists throughout history have done and defended stuff like this for the exact same reasons you are - “for the greater good,” “for the sake of public health,” etc. Maybe we should throw everyone in prison and never let them speak to each other in-person anymore will communicable diseases like COVID can never spread again, since if you do fascist things because you think you’re right, that makes it not fascism.

      • the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        So it isn’t fascism when you think it’s justified. Would you say the same thing about genocide or persecuton? How are are you willing to go with the idea that the ends justify the means?

        • Sundial@lemm.ee
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          8 days ago

          It isn’t fascism when healthcare systems get overwhelmed, an unprecedented level of people are dying, and every expert was advising for the measures that were implemented (and more in a lot of cases). There were reasons these rules were put in place. And it wasn’t for anyone’s ego or political points.

              • the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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                8 days ago

                Really? That sounds like what you’re saying: it’s acceptable to censor information, criminalize going outsid and not wearing a piece of cloth if it’s for a good cause. Namely, it’s okay to do these things if fewer people die of a disease. This is, in fact, justifying the means by pointing to the goal (the ends). Can you explain the distinction between what you’re saying and how I’ve explained it?

                • Sundial@lemm.ee
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                  8 days ago

                  You’re sources don’t support the censorship of information. Just calling out supposed “vaccine hesitancy” and saying to stop it due to its impact on the public health. And yes temporary measure to wear masks and isolate is perfectly acceptable given the circumstances.

                  I would suggest you actually lookup examples of fascism and compare it to what yoy see today. Try send connect the dots.

                  • the_toast_is_gone@lemmy.world
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                    8 days ago

                    Literally the first paragraph from the article by the US Congress:

                    Newly released documents show that the White House has played a major role in censoring Americans on social media. Email exchanges between Rob Flaherty, the White House’s director of digital media, and social-media executives prove the companies put Covid censorship policies in place in response to relentless, coercive pressure from the White House—not voluntarily. The emails emerged Jan. 6 in the discovery phase of Missouri v. Biden, a free-speech case brought by the attorneys general of Missouri and Louisiana and four private plaintiffs represented by the New Civil Liberties Alliance.

                    And now you admit that the ends justify the means?