Todays electronics is fast. Imagine how much natural resources could be saved if manufacturers delivered software support until device is truly unusable due to hardware limitations.

This post is being written on 3 years old flagship killer that has never dropped any frame, reached 0% battery or crashed but wont get system updates anymore because…

seemingly 3 years old 7nm flagship SoC is too weak to be used for next decade?

🇪🇺🙏

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    10 months ago

    I wish the knowledge and methods to flash devices with new/modified firmware was a common standard i take good care of my tech, so much beautiful technology in perfect condition just sitting there unusable because its software is to old.

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    10 months ago

    How is company X supposed to sell you model 2.0? 3? 2.0 RepairCare?

    Planned obsolescence. Profits. Shareholders.

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    10 months ago

    Part of the problem is the chip manufacturers. They provide precompiled device drivers for one version of one kernel only, no source, and refuse to update them ever again. It can be a bit difficult to update the rest of the software stack when there’s no way to shore up the foundations. Device manufacturers need to start insisting on updated drivers and/or provided driver source code before they buy the chips to put in their phones, tablets, and other systems.

    Good luck on that.

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        10 months ago

        Fairphone also deliberately chose an industrial variant of the Snapdragon 778G just so they could get by the issue mentioned by nyan.

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        10 months ago

        Oh, there’s undoubtedly plenty of blame to go around. Samsung is one of the few manufacturers large enough that they might be able to apply some pressure to Qualcomm and its ilk, and they aren’t doing it, or at least aren’t doing it enough.

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    10 months ago

    Same thoughts. I’m surprised how many power is casually laying in my hand. That it can play stuff like Genshin, PUBG, Fortnite. It couldn’t be even thought off when Fruit Ninja, Angry Birds released to sell us the first fun of capacitive screens, gestures. These resources are to last years.

    The only objection is I just don’t care about having the same phone, getting used to it anymore for they all look the same, I occasionaly take other person’s phones at work and when eating out. They are now easier to jump from one device to another. And while it’s good, maybe, that you aren’t chained to it, it warms you up to buy another piece of plastic. My older Symbian devices were something to adjust to, and honor, and cry over they eventual death, and that phone? I can go to the store to buy another and I won’t even sigh. They are ideal portals into the web with no personality besides a phone case. And it’s not that fun.

    I’d honestly sell some belongings to have a modern specs phone with a keyboard and a linux. These awkward, heavy beasts of the past were so damn cool. Writing just isn’t the same with touch-screen, as well as emulation. If there was one, I’d have bought replacement batteries and have used it for decades.

  • The problem behind what you talk about it’s not about manufacturers or corporations, the problem it’s of capitalism by itself, while capitalism still exist all what you talk about will be only wet dreams.

    If people would like to survive climate change and over manufacturing and waste of tons and tons of shit, humankind first have to get rid of capitalism at all.

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    10 months ago

    We could have taken that approach with cars as well. Who needs more than 20HP anyway? We should have just kept repairing the Model T and been happier with what we have, right?

    Maybe the EU 🇪🇺 should legislate that German car companies should cease to produce new cars and instead commit to repairing what they have already produced, for free presumably?

    Take your disgust at this post and now apply it to what you’re talking about 😂.

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      10 months ago

      Who needs more than 20HP anyway?

      20 hursepurses is maybe pushing it, but 30 to 50 kW would actually be plenty if we kept our cars lightweight and aerodynamically efficient instead of insisting on 3-ton ugly boxes with the frontal area of a house.

      Hell, for a single-person lightweight (<40 kg empty weight) electrical vehicle that is expected to go no faster than 30 km/h (often legally limited to 25km/h here in EU) and requires no license to operate, 250 to 300 W is more than enough.

      Lotus had it right.

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      10 months ago

      You have very confidently missed the point of the post.

      Do they stop making oil and air filters for your car after 3 years? Do the seatbelts artificially refuse to connect after 3 years? Lol

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        10 months ago

        Your car gets serviced for free for decades after you’ve bought it? Damn I’ve been ripped off all these years.

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          10 months ago

          You pay to get your car serviced but with your phone you don’t even have that option. When the manufacturer drops support, you don’t even have the option to pay for prolonged software support.

    • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      OP is talking about software updates, and you are talking about one of the few products nowadays where decades old models can be maintained without excessive cost.

      In most countries the Model T is exempt from any kind of safety inspection and classes of tax, making it an excellent option for the maliciously compliant engineer 😁

      Maybe the EU 🇪🇺 should legislate that German car companies should cease to produce new cars and instead commit to repairing what they have already produced, for free presumably?

      Why not? While they’re at it they can start making buses and trains.

      Mercedes in particular absolutely nailed bus design with their Citaro, then promptly proceeded to make a hideous looking successor 🤢 perhaps their car designers can fix that