• syd@lemy.lol
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    8 months ago

    I wish Graphene would choose a better phone than ugly-looking Pixels.

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      8 months ago

      As far as I know they only accept Pixel devices because they are the only devices on the market that allow locking the bootloader after installation and also because of the Titan coprocessor which greatly increases system security

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        8 months ago

        Why would I want to lock the bootloader? I like having freedom 9f OS, I don’t want to replace one OS I’m locked into with a different, albeit more privacy friendly one. Most laptops have unlocked bootloaders.

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        8 months ago

        I remember I was not able to re-lock bootloader after custom rom installation, so you’re probably right. Unfortunately there are not many phones left to install custom ROMs except Chinese ones :/

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        8 months ago

        There’s also a third reason, which is regular and timely firmware updates. One of the reasons why the GrapheneOS team rejected the Fairphone was due to the lack of proper firmware updates.

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        8 months ago

        because they are the only devices on the market that allow locking the bootloader after installation

        AFAIK on Xiaomi Mi A2 lite if I flash back the stock fastboot ROM (I had it do it once because I crippled the partition images (this phone is A/B partition device)) it locks your bootloader and you have to unlock it again. I don’t know if this applyes to MIUI/Hyper OS phones too, because Mi A2 Lite uses near to stock Android.

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        8 months ago

        Pretty much. No idea why you were down voted. They’re so damn fragile that they need a case anyway.

        So, screen with random (protective) case design. Yup, they all look the same

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      8 months ago

      I’d choose a Samsung if it supported graphene, but it is what it is

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      8 months ago

      My problem is not their design but the fact they are Google phones, as I boycott Google. Also second hand Pixels are hard to acquire for a reasonable price…

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        8 months ago

        as I boycott Google

        So you shouldn’t really be using any Android phone then…

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          8 months ago

          What, and use Apple? Linux phones aren’t usable yet, and at least android is open source so using a non google Android phone doesn’t support Google.

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        8 months ago

        @gigachad @syd
        GrapheneOS wird exklusiv für Google Pixel-Geräte entwickelt - andere Geräte werden nicht unterstützt. Hintergrund dieser Einschränkung sind die hohen Sicherheitsanforderungen von GrapheneOS. Die folgenden Anforderungen werden derzeit nur von Google Pixel Geräten vollständig erfüllt:

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        8 months ago

        you pay them with money rather than with your data. to me it seems like a reasonable exchange

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        8 months ago

        Guess that depends on what you mean by reasonable.

        The 5 is $130 as refurb, with warranty, from walmart. It was $699 new.

        If you want a newer phone, well, it’s gonna cost more. Just like brand new phones.

        If their price is still “high”, that simply reflects their desireabilty, probably from a balance of features and performance by price.

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        They are not hard to acquire, and they only have an “unreasonable price” if they are recent models.

        You won’t have any trouble finding a second-hand Pixel 5.

        I recently bought a Pixel 4a at 120€ / 131$

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    8 months ago

    As long as “auto” doesn’t mean “forced”.

    But knowing current trends, especially with Android, it likely will be.

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      Option to enable automatically rebooting the device when no profile has been unlocked for the configured time period to put the device fully at rest again, which is enabled by default at 18 hours. This can be configured at Settings > Security > Auto reboot.

      https://grapheneos.org/features#auto-reboot

      But it’s a security measure to get it to BFU, where data is at rest and secure, in case your phone is out of your possession for an extended period of time (someone steals it, police take it, etc) so it becomes harder to exploit. I’ve set mine to 12. Some do 4 or even less. Feel free to turn it off.

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    8 months ago

    I don’t understand. So if I only lock my phone (turn the screen off) without rebooting it, it is not fully encrypted (considering that the device storage encryption is enabled)?

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      8 months ago

      Something like that. I’m not familiar with the exact details, but there is an additional layer of encryption that applies before the first unlock after a reboot.

      Parts of the OS have to be unencrypted for it to function properly.