• Vodulas [they/them]@beehaw.org
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        But all does is feed into the toxic bullshit. It isn’t some high parody or anything. It is trying to make fun of the thing by doing the thing

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          Making fun of the thing by doing the thing works against the people who do the thing.

          Stigmatizing toxically masculine people by saying they have small penises will make them hesitate more than any high-ground maneuver.

          High-ground maneuvers don’t have a history of working out for anyone. You have to wrestle the pig in the mud, you can’t stay clean while doing that.

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            Except it doesn’t work. Name once where someone was like “oh someone did the same shitty thing I did, better change my tune.” All it does is reinforce their behavior as normal and acceptable

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              Adolf Hitler killed himself when Germany was invaded, ie, the world responding in kind to the lowest form of communication and behaviors(war), and was absolutely right to do so. He demonstrated less will to survive than basically any of the people he had sent to death camps.

              Stop chastising people for punching up at the billionair class.

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      For real? Normally it is toxic and wrong to ridicule people for their physical stuff. Almost always in fact.

      But in this case, petty insults are the only thing that gets to him. So if it angers and insults the guy who keeps describing many many Americans as subhuman vermin, i say it go for it.

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              I have friends with similarly-low follower accounts that have been engaged with by Elon Musk on Twitter.

              You fail to grasp the pettiness and narcissism of this particular brand of celebrity. They will go to stupid lengths to crush an ant that looks at them funny, never grasping what a complete waste of time and energy they are engaging in.

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                OK, so let’s say Trump sees this. How do you think it will effect him? Do you think he’ll be like “Oh shit, someone made fun of my penis, better stop being a Nazi.” It’s pointless and does nothing to even make him feel bad. You think Trump cares what anyone besides himself thinks? All you have accomplished is perpetuating toxic masculinity as a valid form of criticism.

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                  Riiight, let me just go throw a small dick joke at, say, Ellen Degeneres, or Oprah, or even Ru Paul(iirc, theirs, if they still have it, was rumored to be large) … None of them would care. They would probably laugh at the notion of me getting worked up about it.

                  Toxic masculinity is bad when targetted at non-men, or non-masc-conforming men. Saying throwing a small-dick joke at Donald-Fucking-Trump is equivalent to calling Ellen small-chested, Oprah fat, or Ru Paul masculine, is bat-shit apologism, and I’m done responding to you on this bullshit.

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          well, kind of. I guess there are better ways to try and embarrass bullies than dick jokes in particular.

          But it also doesn’t matter if they see it or not. Thats not why we should mock these people. Its important for people generally to be able to laugh at these assholes who are trying to intimidate the whole country.

          Maybe we should find less toxic ways to do so, but name calling and jokes about things that play on their insecurities are probably more effective than a lot of other things to weaken their “strongman” image

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            Sure, and there are plenty things to make fun of him for that don’t hurt other people. For example being a fucking creep or being a constant loser.

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          Being toxic is an invitation to be toxic. The subject has made clear the forms of communication within their grasp, and decency is not among them.

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                Who said I am bent out of shape? I am a bit annoyed, and pretty disappointed, but not angry. And yeah, you might succeed at making someone mad by making fun of their penis, but that isn’t productive, and does not make them rethink their own toxicity. All it does is tell them that this particular type of joke is OK since both sides are using it. So it can’t do any good, but can do harm.