Obvious strawman is obvious. No one, including me, has said or would say that there is no such thing as Russian propaganda, any more than anyone should say that there is no US propaganda.
I don’t know anything about this video, so I couldn’t say whether it was created by “Russian disinformation unit” or just some random Russian person, or someone(s) entirely unrelated to Russia. But I’m certainly not going to take the FBI’s, CISA’s, or the DNI’s word for it.
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Though the agencies didn’t specifically name a particular source for the videos […]
Oh wait no, despite all these doubts you have, you seem to accept the existence of Russian propaganda in this comment:
Hey, just off hand, if you wouldn’t mind finally answering this; are you pro-Russian? Do you support Putin? You claim to be American, but you can’t even say “I’m not pro-Russian”, no matter how many times we’ve engaged. Nor can you call Putler the pathetic little piglet he is. For obvious reasons. ;) Feel free to prove me wrong.
I stand by my statement that there are “approximately zero” bots on Lemmy, unless you want to include the occasional spammer or corporate shill, and even they are almost always quickly dispatched.
And there are reasons why I’m not inclined to take my government or their NGO partners at their word.
Jacobin: Why the Twitter Files Are in Fact a Big DealOn the Left, there’s been a temptation to dismiss the revelations about Twitter’s internal censorship system that have emerged from the so-called Twitter Files project. But that would be a mistake: the news is important and the details are alarming.
Denying you’ve said what you’ve said, only marginally touching on it to say you didn’t actually mean what you wrote. After which you again ignore me asking you whether you’re pro-Russian or not. Why? Why can you answer this simple question? ARE YOU PRO-RUSSIAN?
Why is it that you simply can not answer that, and genuinely all you do on Lemmy revolves around posting these inane lists of bullshit, always defending & indirectly propagating exactly the same thing Russian propaganda does?
Why is it that you simply can not answer this simple question that I’ve now repeated half a dozen times in this comment to highlight just how asinine this approach of yours is: ARE YOU PRO-RUSSIAN?
*We all know the answer, by the way, because you say things like this:
It seems that lately Western media has started “parroting Russian talking points.” Is it because all this Russian propaganda is so incredibly effective, or is it because truths are becoming harder and harder to suppress? This week:
Picked one of your random article links. Here’s a quote.
To be clear, the Kremlin’s claims that Ukraine is a hornets’ nest of fascists are false: far-right parties performed poorly in Ukraine’s last parliamentary elections, and Ukrainians reacted with alarm to the National Militia’s demonstration in Kiev. But connections between law enforcement agencies and extremists give Ukraine’s Western allies ample reason for concern. C14 and Kiev’s city government recently signed an agreement allowing C14 to establish a “municipal guard” to patrol the streets; three such militia-run guard forces are already registered in Kiev, and at least 21 operate in other cities.
You know why I keep engaging with you? It’s because it’s like visiting a museum exhibit about Soviet propaganda. Amusing in weird sort of way. Your use of Russian propaganda is so exemplary it’s honestly rather impressive. I mean, Russian propaganda is shit rhetoric, any 16-year old with an average media literacy from my country could break down these childish lists of yours. You just rely on “if they start engaging, I can sealion endlessly”, and think people don’t understand what you’re doing.
Just like how you keep avoiding the question of if you’re pro-Russian or not. Which is again hilarious in itself, since you do keep insisting you’re a red-blooded American, but won’t go so far as to lie about not being pro-Russian, which is painfully obvious to everyone.
Are you pro-Russian? Do you wish to give Putler oral pleasure?
Take a look at the content they constantly remove in the mod logs. They can’t stand anyone that backs up their argument factually, yet does nothing but post their copypasta propaganda.
Seriously. Check their removals against the actual rules. Because unless Rule 1 clearly states:
Don’t post things I don’t like
The overwhelming majority of the shit they remove and ban for doesn’t break any rules at all.
I think it’s because .world and .ml are the two largest instances. As nice and and as blissfully peaceful as it would be to defederate from the bad faith rhetoric in .ml, it would be disastrous for lemmy as a whole.
You just rely on “if they start engaging, I can sealion endlessly”
Are you pro-Russian?
Have you forgotten who @-ed who in this thread, or who has demanded an answer to this question a dozen times or more now, despite my having given rather detailed answers months ago?
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Take our word for it, bro.
Your actions speak louder than words. You can’t fool us.
Okay, collective pseudonymous you, ya got me 👍
Oh, so you’re denying that you’ve ever denied or questioned the existence of Russian propaganda and/or bad actors?
Okay.
What’s this then? https://lemmy.world/comment/11978870
And these ?
Oh wait no, despite all these doubts you have, you seem to accept the existence of Russian propaganda in this comment:
Hey, just off hand, if you wouldn’t mind finally answering this; are you pro-Russian? Do you support Putin? You claim to be American, but you can’t even say “I’m not pro-Russian”, no matter how many times we’ve engaged. Nor can you call Putler the pathetic little piglet he is. For obvious reasons. ;) Feel free to prove me wrong.
I stand by my statement that there are “approximately zero” bots on Lemmy, unless you want to include the occasional spammer or corporate shill, and even they are almost always quickly dispatched.
And there are reasons why I’m not inclined to take my government or their NGO partners at their word.
Holy Russian propaganda Batman!
Denying you’ve said what you’ve said, only marginally touching on it to say you didn’t actually mean what you wrote. After which you again ignore me asking you whether you’re pro-Russian or not. Why? Why can you answer this simple question? ARE YOU PRO-RUSSIAN?
Why is it that you simply can not answer that, and genuinely all you do on Lemmy revolves around posting these inane lists of bullshit, always defending & indirectly propagating exactly the same thing Russian propaganda does?
Why is it that you simply can not answer this simple question that I’ve now repeated half a dozen times in this comment to highlight just how asinine this approach of yours is: ARE YOU PRO-RUSSIAN?
*We all know the answer, by the way, because you say things like this:
It seems that lately Western media has started “parroting Russian talking points.” Is it because all this Russian propaganda is so incredibly effective, or is it because truths are becoming harder and harder to suppress? This week:
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Western media parroted Russian talking points before 2022 as well, but somehow in February of that year they stopped 🤔
Picked one of your random article links. Here’s a quote.
You know why I keep engaging with you? It’s because it’s like visiting a museum exhibit about Soviet propaganda. Amusing in weird sort of way. Your use of Russian propaganda is so exemplary it’s honestly rather impressive. I mean, Russian propaganda is shit rhetoric, any 16-year old with an average media literacy from my country could break down these childish lists of yours. You just rely on “if they start engaging, I can sealion endlessly”, and think people don’t understand what you’re doing.
Just like how you keep avoiding the question of if you’re pro-Russian or not. Which is again hilarious in itself, since you do keep insisting you’re a red-blooded American, but won’t go so far as to lie about not being pro-Russian, which is painfully obvious to everyone.
Are you pro-Russian? Do you wish to give Putler oral pleasure?
Take a look at the content they constantly remove in the mod logs. They can’t stand anyone that backs up their argument factually, yet does nothing but post their copypasta propaganda.
Seriously. Check their removals against the actual rules. Because unless Rule 1 clearly states:
Don’t post things I don’t like
The overwhelming majority of the shit they remove and ban for doesn’t break any rules at all.
Oh yeah I know. The first time I ever commented something to him, it took him less than two comments to start making threats with his mod status.
A very clear Russian troll. Claims to be American, but I seriously doubt it. A Putler loving American? Must have a lot of friends. :D
I seriously don’t understand why lemmy.world federates with lemmy.ml
I think it’s because .world and .ml are the two largest instances. As nice and and as blissfully peaceful as it would be to defederate from the bad faith rhetoric in .ml, it would be disastrous for lemmy as a whole.
And I’m pretty sure both sides know this.
All I did was post links to Western media sources, so I don’t see how that could be “a museum exhibit about Soviet propaganda.”
Edit to add: If you don’t want people to see links to Western media, maybe don’t @ me next time 🤷
Are you pro-Russian?
Have you forgotten who @-ed who in this thread, or who has demanded an answer to this question a dozen times or more now, despite my having given rather detailed answers months ago?