• bitwolf@lemmy.one
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    2 months ago

    Someone did the math on Twitter.

    There is about 2900 Linux gamers playing Apex.

    So even if 100% of Linux gamers cheated it could in no way be the majority.

    What I think happened is the dev team struggled to solve the problem so they used Linux as a scapegoat when leadership came down on them.

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      2 months ago

      This sounds likely. Unfortunately, when the problem doesn’t go away a few months from now, it’s not like they’ll reenable Linux support…

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    2 months ago

    One of the few ea games I played,what a shame ig my luck truly died down.
    Edit after reading the article it’s that same excuse, too muc hakers,dude isnt your game full of hackers wayy before linux users.(I wrote it like that to make fun of companies that say linux is a way for hackers)
    But this is the time to quit all greedy companies.

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      2 months ago

      you gotta contact EA about it, and something’s telling me they’re just going to quote some part of their ToC telling us to get fucked.

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        2 months ago

        alright then flood them CC charge backs, let them explaining to their payment processor why everybody decided to do this all at the same time ;)

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            2 months ago

            Counterpoint - Devs need to eat. Especially devs that are thoughtful enough to enable their anti-cheat to work on Linux. So yeah, they had my attention, my support, and my money. In return I got to play a fun game and rock some cool skins and accessories - it certainly seemed like a win-win. Now they’ve retroactively backed out of their support, and I’d like to back out mine as well.

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              Agreed to a point. I don’t care so much that “the devs need to eat” because these are AAA corporations, not indie devs. The moderate gains and losses aren’t directly affecting the people that actually made the game, they’re just affecting the bonuses the CEOs get. What does matter though is that if we as Linux gamers want them to care, they need to see that Linux users are generating revenue. They’re greedy corpos and revenue is all they give a shit about. I’m OK contributing a small amount to games that continue to support Linux. I’m OK spending $5 every few months to buy the Overwatch 2 battle pass if it means Blizzard sees that someone who only plays on Linux is generating income. I’m certain they looked at the money coming in from Linux players more than the actual number of said players when making this decision. The only way to make corporate monsters care about you is to feed their greed. Sometimes, feeding them a small amount can potentially help your cause.

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                2 months ago

                What does matter though is that if we as Linux gamers want them to care, they need to see that Linux users are generating revenue. They’re greedy corpos and revenue is all they give a shit about.

                I appreciate you mentioning this, I agree. If linux made a blip on a chart, executives would prioritize figuring out a solution.

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              2 months ago

              Me too… I bought one Apex pack solely because the introduced Linux support a month after I switched to Linux.

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                I’m not sure what your point is? Perhaps I incorrectly assumed this was obvious but yes - if players do not financially support a game, even “free to play” games, those games disappear. There is not a single company on the planet that is going to continue investing in a negative revenue project for funsies. The teams working on the game are relocated to other projects or laid off, and the game shuts down.

                If you believe I’m in the wrong for supporting a game that, until this point, was friendly to linux - then so be it.

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              Ah yes, “the devs”. What percentage of the profit do you think goes to the gameplay developers, the backend developers, the designers, the character artists, the environment artists, the QA team, the writers, the voice talent, the localization teams, and the other roles too numerous to list but too important to ignore, that actually create the game? In contrast, how much do the executives, managers, and parasites shareholders pocket?

              Even if you assume a fair division between all people, just look at how long the credits list is. The average developer employee won’t go hungry because a couple hundred players stop buying gamble coins.

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    Would’ve cared… If the game had gotten any good updates for the past… Year? Probably more at this point.

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    How much fucking harder/extra work is it to maintain a Linux version of something? God damn, I don’t even really use Linux outside of servers and I still think it’s bullshit how little support it gets because it’s like a Catch 22. Nobody works on it because nobody uses it; but nobody uses it because nobody works on it! (For gaming, anyway)

    It’s amazing how much actual change this one piece of hardware has done to bolster Linux’s share of things, but it’s still also just kind of a drop in the bucket.

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      2 months ago

      Ohh my god true, these companies are massive but man for a while many games are windows first.

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    2 months ago

    Wasn’t Apex Legends the game, that run better in wine than natively on windows?

    • ℍ𝕖𝕝𝕚0𝕤@social.ggbox.fr
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      It’s also keeping people from even considering linux for gaming so I don’t share your sentiment. Like it or not, these games are insanely popular. My gaming buddies won’t even think of switching to linux until 100% of the games they play are working on it, and that include “shitty MMO Battle Royale” I’m sorry to say.

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      2 months ago

      Why is it a good thing that people can’t enjoy the games they like on Linux?

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      2 months ago

      And they ask their users to use Microsoft spyware os,this is really bad for privacy.

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    2 months ago

    If you accidentally ban linux users in three[1] different[2] banwaves[3], then linux was only halfway supported in the first place, even if they overturned (almost) all of those bans.

    I think the real reason they did it was EA’s financial situation. Since money is tight, the amount of resources they were willing to put into real linux anti-cheat probably dropped to “none at all,” and now we’re here. Otherwise other cheater-prone games like Counter Strike, Overwatch, Halo, The Finals, DayZ, Hunt Showdown, etc would have probably dropped/blocked linux by now too.

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      I would be so upset if Hunt Showdown did this.

      Hell, I’m mad Apex Legends did it and I have very little time invested in that game.

      I really wish game developers would stop with this kernel level anticheat nonsense that doesn’t even work. Everyone in every gaming community just points the finger, people that play games using Easy Anticheat say Battleye sucks and vice versa.

      If kernel level anticheat actually worked, there would be a definitive answer to which games have good anticheat.

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    2 months ago

    Does this have anything to do with the other Steam related headline I read in a post earlier: " Games now have to disclose kernel level anticheat on steam?"

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      2 months ago

      I approve of that but I don’t know how it is a change? I have already been refusing to consider games because they have Denuvo listed.

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        Idk my sole interaction is through these headlines lol, I don’t have steam, and haven’t really even played anything since like RDR2 (well, not counting my GBC, I play with that all the time, currently playing Earthworm Jim (GB).)

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      It is nice timing but I believe apex is already well known for its anticheat so they wouldnt be disclosing whats not already known