Saw a post without noticing the community and commented a genuine comment with good intentions.

Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

Original post:

My (removed) comment:

And yeah, the last comment was sarcasm.

I just don’t really understand why is there a community for shitting on Linux? Like I can get not liking it, and hating the Linux die hard fans, but it really is an amazing thing that is integral to almost all modern computing… Kind of like hating social media by having a facebook page for it.

    • ReakDuck@lemmy.ml
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      Yeah… I am in my Arch comfort zone, till I was forced to move on as the newest kernels of Arch triggered kernel Panics at my Starlite V device. Even the LTS version (and for some weird reason the rt kernel was the only one working without panics).

      So someone said “Use NixOS, its great”… it felt cool at beginning, but sucked very soon as everything should be written into stone if you want changes on your system, and then reboot, because the switch command didn’t really trigger enough changes. Netbeans was without Maven till I rebooted. I thought I sucked at adding it properly. Frustrating it was.

      Then I tried MX Linux, just to realize that Debian has Ancient packages with many many bugs, like Okular having a broken Pinch-Zoom which is fixed after 23.31 or smth. Debian had version 22 of Okular. And I disliked that MX Linux used Plasma 5…

      Another one recommends Void Linux, Gentoo, KDE Neon, OpenSuse Tumbleweed. Holy fuck pls filter it by Systemd only Operating Systems. (But still cool having lots od Linux users in my university group)

      I finally decided to Install Kubuntu and actually… it feels like it will last forever (till a new Ubuntu Update comes in and destroys itself by its own Updating system. It never worked for me)

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    So: you posted a serious contribution in an unserious community, and got treated unseriously. It’s not very newsworthy.

    As for that community’s existence, why is that even up for discussion? As a Linux user I’m happy for people to say what they like about Linux. If the jokes are funny, all the better.

    I use Ubuntu btw and it doesn’t suck. Well, not that much.

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      I don’t think it’s a joke community, it seems to just be about hating Linux and not allowing any Linux positivity or praise

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        And so what? Why are you so bothered by it? I’m a Linux user of 20 years and I couldn’t give a fig that someone is running a forum called LinuxSucks which, not unsurprisingly, contains little “positivity or praise” for Linux.

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          I mean… This is a site for posting things, and I posted a thing. Trust me, this isn’t the highlight of my day or something that deeply bothers me

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                Even so, why post this and not any one of countless other things?

                Like I feel that you’re missing a clear sign here. Most people would roll their eyes and move on. This is quite possibly the most “leopards ate my face” post in this community and yet it’s being upvoted because “hooray tribalism” over something as asinine as OS (really kernel) choice.

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                  Because they found it interesting and wanted to discuss it with people?

                  Just because it’s low priority doesn’t mean it lacks any interest, we can exist between extremes

                  Most people would roll their eyes and move on

                  Quite famously 1% of the community are posters, after all. Who the fuck cares what a normal person would post? OP wanted to

                  and yet it’s being upvoted because “hooray tribalism” over something as asinine as OS (really kernel) choice.

                  Lol, it’s being upvoted because most of us recognize the sub and it’s pathetic mod and are laughing at being reminded of them, if the comments are anything to go by

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    Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

    Sounds like they’ve done you a favour. Now you don’t have to see their random hater circlejerk community again.

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    Nope, I just checked. Apparently, you can’t say anything good about Linux. Seems like a useless waste of time but, whatever. If I got banned from that site I would consider it a blessing.

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    Yeah, that guy’s not joking.

    It’s not some kayfabe act. He is sincere in all of that posturing assholery.

    Block and move on.

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    Unrelated but I got banned from the atheist memes community for calling one of the mods memes a boomer Facebook meme.

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    I read it as a jokey community and maybe you took it too seriously. Regardless that’s a kinda silly comment to leave. That’s a community for, ironically or seriously, hating Linux, so obviously it’s not in the spirit of the community to leave a serious comment defending Linux.

    I see a lot of Windows hate on Lemmy. If someone made a post here complaining about how much they hate Windows, and a Windows fan replied explaining why Windows is so great, I would say it’s kinda heavy-handed but not totally ridiculous for a mod to ban them, since a Linux community is probably not for this person.

    • potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish
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      The guy made 3+ pages of posts shitting on linux, all while nobody else posted and 95% of the posts were downvoted to shit. Nobody was laughing, the guy made real arguments, and genuinely seemed to have an issue with linux. I never detected any satire presonally.

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    There was a time when there was an annual “Linux Sucks” presentation that I liked because it was a roundup of candid, yet constructive criticism of Linux (and then at some point the person running that went off the deep end and started yelling about woke agendas).

    I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken when running linux, and we as a community then try to fix them or find workarounds.

    But as others have pointed out, that community isn’t a community, it’s literally just one account hanging out by themselves.

    • drhoopoe@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken

      But isn’t that every linux forum?

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        Yeah, but I think it can feel too much like a circle jerk around here sometimes. I get that people want to win over new users, but some of it goes too far I think. The fact is Linux isn’t perfect, and while no OS is, there are some critical things you can do on Windows that are still a pain in the ass on Linux. Some of that is a vendor/proprietary software problem, but a good chunk of it is just people being willing to overlook a thin layer of jank in their normal workflows.

        I think we’d all be better off to all acknowledge and clean up the jank rather than try to pretend it’s fine as is.

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          To be fair, Windows has its own jank. As someone who is forced to use Windows 11 for work, I’m much happier putting up with the minimum Linux jank I’ve experienced compared to the Windows jank.

          If any of that made sense.

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      There is a guy that is a Linux dev, that maintains* a list of what sucks about linux, its very comprehensive–but a bit dated. He alao has same for Windows. I will have to look for the link

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      " that community isn’t a community, it’s literally just one account hanging out by themselves."

      Is it though? Here’s a screenshot from comfy@lemmy.ml showing 2 other contributors (and this isn’t chat; I’m not here to ‘hang out’).

      It’s also new and trending. Even on Reddit’s r/linuxsucks, I was a prolific poster, and continue as such on r/desktoplinuxsucks.

      Maybe just admit being butt-hurt or mute, because you aren’t the intended audience and it brings you discomfort. -Thanks

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        Lol that’s actually hilarious. So but, why not comment on your posts too? Each post is just sitting there with an empty comments section.

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          I got into mostly posting rather that commenting because of the hostility of Linux evangelists / brigaders. -Posts can’t yield negative karma on reddit. My comment is typically in the form of the title or in the customization / creation of the meme.

          Maybe you’re still thinking back to when it was new; there are some posts from today (or a matter of a couple hours) with 3 comments already. It’s funny how people are criticizing it when there’s some adjustment (getting the right audience / parcipation) to be done in the face of a brigading / evangelizing issue from people it’s not meant for. I didn’t bring a community, and I’m not going to recruit for here from the reddit subs.

          It’s unlikely that anyone is going to come along and contribute anywhere near as much as I do. -I don’t see the problem with that. Progress is happening and we are continually on the trending lists. IMO it’s working.

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            I’m all for it. All publicity is good publicity in this space. Open criticism is the first step to better open software.

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    It’s the same argument I’ve heard about the “complexity” of Mastodon: too many choices, which is I guess why people largely stopped going to websites outside the major social networks. Monopoly over competition, it’s like everyone is pining for a monarchy.

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    Hummm… Guess you’re to sensible? I mean I’m die hard linux lover for 3 years now and will never switch back to Windows… EVER!

    However, I found some of those posts quite funny !

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    You should also take into accoubt the animosity against lemmy.ml in general from some instances and communities. Something to do with the moderation here or something else.

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    For this exact reason i feel the fediverse should operate on #hashtags and the user should subscribe to their mods who will mark content for exclusion and filtration.

    Meaning that instead of a ultimatum users can participate regardless of if bad mods ruin a community as per reddit /r/linux being ruined by loco mods.

    This fiefdom format where topics are arbitrated and drum headded by fief lords is archaic and antiquated.

    When the wrong man uses the right means, then the right means work in the wrong way.

    Its our job to create systems that prevent this as much as possible through good design.

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      That’s how aether works kind of.

      It’s P2P/decentralised rather than federated.

      Anyone can make a community. With enough participation in a community one can become a mod. Mods can be impeached by vote of active participants.

      Anyone can see nod actions and anyone can decide to disable the actions of any mod.

      I love the system, I was active there before moving to Lemmy. I wish it had taken off/absorbed some of the Reddit fallout rather than Lemmy.

      AFAIK it is not maintained or at least updated much less frequently than Lemmy/ActivityPub.

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    That whole community is just one guy posting memes. Some are funny but mostly its just odd how much he hates Linux.

    Whatever :)

    • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Not content with unasked for evangelizing in Windows communities and posts, this Stallman’s Witness tries their hand in an even less welcome locale.

      Injured by the failure of their attempt, they seek sympathy back in friendlier climes.

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      Is that Don Quixote charging a windmill? If not for me reading little about Major Sergius Saranoff being compared to Don Quixote in Arms and the Man, I would’ve never known…