Gun Companies Gave Customers’ Sensitive Personal Information to Political Operatives

HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 22 days ago

Gun Companies Gave Customers’ Sensitive Personal Information to Political Operatives

AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee · 21 days ago

Point is, if your government is about to be overrun, why would you give the government/state a monopoly on violence?

Do you trust the police/military to be the sole owners of firearms given the current political climate? I know you don’t like cops Squid, and Trump has already threatened to deploy the military against civilians and political opponents.

Flying Squid@lemmy.world · 21 days ago

I thought your point is it wasn’t a coup attempt.

Your point seems to keep changing.

You also seem to think I want to ban guns for some reason. I don’t know why because I never said I did.

AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee · 21 days ago

My point hasn’t changed at all, my point was to establish that you agree it was a coup attempt.

Given a possible coup, a list of all gun owners (regardless of political affiliation) is bad. Privacy rights are important, even for people we disagree with.

Flying Squid@lemmy.world · 21 days ago

Remember when I said privacy rights aren’t important? Because I sure don’t.

AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee · edit-2 21 days ago

Maybe I really did miss the point. What did you mean by, “Now is not the time to talk about gun privacy control.”

I took it to mean you didn’t think it was a valid issue for discussion.

Flying Squid@lemmy.world · 21 days ago

You sure did.

“I agree with the comments of your guests there: This is not the time to be talking about legislation. We’re in the middle of that crisis right now.”

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4279085-speaker-johnson-says-now-not-the-time-to-discuss-gun-control-problem-is-the-human-heart-not-guns/

“It just goes to show that the politics from this Administration … has nothing to do with people. They’re going to continue to push an agenda. It’s not the right agenda. In my opinion, it’s not the right time to talk about what we see out there … We’ve got to get back to God in this country, we have really gotten away from that from a moral standpoint. There’s a lot of issues out there, she is dead wrong to bring that up at this time. It’s just not the right time.”

https://meidasnews.com/news/rep-collins-its-not-the-time-to-talk-about-gun-control

President Donald Trump was at the University Medical Center in Las Vegas on Wednesday visiting victims of Sunday’s mass shooting when a reporter asked him, “Do you think we have a gun violence problem?”

“We’re not going to talk about that today,” Trump responded. “We won’t talk about that.”

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/trump-says-its-the-wrong-time-to-discuss-gun-control-in-las-vegas-even-gun-owners-disagree/

“There’s a time and place for a political debate, but now is the time to unite as a country,” Sanders said. “There’s currently an open and ongoing law enforcement investigation, a motive is yet to be determined and it would be premature for us to discuss policy when we don’t fully know all the facts or what took place last night.”

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/02/politics/sarah-sanders-las-vegas/index.html

“It’s particularly inappropriate to politicize an event like this. It just happened within the last day and half. Entirely premature to be discussing about legislative solutions if any,” McConnell said.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/03/mitch-mcconnell-gun-control-las-vegas-shooting-243418

I can keep going if you like, but something tells me you still won’t get it if I do.

AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee · 21 days ago

Squid, you are always a joy to converse with. I’d like to know what your “something” is but something tells me you won’t tell me if I ask 😉

You could have just mentioned that you were referencing other responses to previous events. Regardless, I’ll take the L because I guess I did miss the point.