Ah the comfortable Democratic Party position of telling its voters what they have to support because the GOP exists.
Who exactly is he going to lose to? Not like any other candidate is opposed to war with Palestine.
The problem won’t be people voting for republicans instead of Biden, but people choosing not to vote.
Can you blame them? People only voted for Biden in 2020 because he wasn’t Trump. If the DNC can’t even present another inspiring candidate, we should maybe consider being frustrated with the party itself and not take our anger out on everyone else.
It’s tough. A 2-party system where one party wants to end democracy feels like it’s already not much of a democracy at all. I can understand the frustration of having to vote the mediocre technocrat as “the lesser evil” each election. On the other hand, the prospect of a second Trump presidency is horrifying and would be a disaster for far more countries than just the US, so I’d still vote for Biden every time if I could.
It should scare you as it does me. Democrats strategy of people voting cause they’re scared but not inspired is dumb and won’t last forever.
Aren’t young Democrats the lowest turnout group in nearly every state in every election? I’ll double check the numbers when I get home, but from memory that was the case.
I can see the onion headline already.
“Non-voters threaten not to vote if Biden doesn’t do what they want”
You seem to forget when Trump won in 2016 because the DNC didn’t listen to their base.
Yeah that base that never turned out and acted like they were part of the party.
You know why they call the Uber right wing the Republican base? Because they’re the group that turn out the most.
Millennials and Zoomers underperform their own share of the population in the primary, which is fucking pathetic since they ought to be way overperforming that given their overwhelming lean against Republican politics.
You know why the Uber right turns out the most? Because they believe that if they don’t that we’ll abduct their children and turn them into an adrenochrome harvesting factory while worshiping Moloch. You know why Millennials and Zoomers stay home? Because their own party has made it obvious that they care more about corporations, than whether they’ll ever have a fucking place to live safely. So if you want Millennials and Zoomers to show up then give them something to show up for.
If the protection of queer women’s and PoC rights aren’t enough for you to shut up and turn out no matter how corporate you feel the party is then you’re in no position to say jack shit when Women Queer folks and PoC tell you to shut up and fall the fuck in line to use that white straight privilege you obviously are rocking to act like they’re oh so the same to get the rest of us to where corporate fuckery is the only thing we have on our plates.
You know why the Uber right turn out every time, because they believe all that shit, you know why millennials and Zoomers don’t? Because knowing the truth of what the right will do with the power they’re handing them some the fuck how ain’t enough for them to pony up to the onerous Herculean task of spending a day at most waiting in line to fill out a few forms.
You entitled fucks will fight bite kick and scream like toddlers rather than check a box. You want to perform allyship while fighting with everything you have to whitesplain to us why we shouldn’t expect you to do any of the actual damn work of being an ally. You’re making demands of us for you to do literally the bare minimum, you march and protest and say all the pretty words and then act like that amounts to anything next to a ballot to protect our rights.
How about instead of demands, you tell us why we don’t have the right to bind gag and drag you by the feet to the polling station and leave you there to rot if that’s what it’ll take to make you do even the first act of actual allyship. Why you deserve to show up at protests and public meetings like your word is worth anything but being laughed out for the faker you are. Why we shouldn’t consider you an active collaborator for having the fucking gall to not consider “THEY ARE LITERALLY FASCISTS OUT TO KILL US” all the reason you need to shut up and listen to what we’re telling you.
Y’all love to quote MLK on the white moderate all the time as if he wasn’t talking about y’all with your performative ass nonsense. All the words claiming you support the advancement of civil rights with NONE of the action.
Sit down. Shut up. And stay sat down and shut up till you come back to this convo with your “I voted” sticker to prove you ain’t just Ally-Facing.
shut up and fall the fuck in line
How about instead of demands, you tell us why we don’t have the right to bind gag and drag you by the feet to the polling station and leave you there to rot
Sit down. Shut up. And stay sat down and shut up
When the people pretending to be anti-fascists are the fascists
They think Trump is BETTER on Gaza?
Mr. “Nobody has done more for the Jewish people than me”?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/16/us/politics/trump-gaza-refugees-travel-ban.html
If Gaza is your single issue in '24 there’s NOBODY to vote for.
Don’t be a single issue voter either. Shit is too important to throw away your most valuable resource to combat climate change, ensure world peace, fund science and medical research, and equal rights for everyone.
Vote like your life depends on it. Because it does. Federal and local elections. It’s very important everyone vote.
Nope. 37 now and I’ve always voted since 18. It doesn’t matter. I’ll never vote ever again. It means nothing.
Dumbest comment of the thread right up there folks.
When elections get decided on less than 100K votes across the country morons like this are essentially voting for fascism by not voting.
Wouldn’t want a person like this to vote anyway. Not very good at reasoning.
I honestly think people like you are why Trump ever got elected. You have no clue what kind of person @jo3jo3 and yet you call them stupid and spew almost the same kind of vile that you claim to warn against by them not voting. It really makes no sense to me how you can equate someone disillusioned with the entire process to be the same as someone who is out to get you. If you want more people to vote Democrat, then when people vote for your candidate merely because they hate the other candidate so much, then next time find a better candidate. Don’t tell them in 4 years, oh, we decided to not change a thing and you now have the same choice… either vote for our same mediocre candidate, or else the world will end. The doomsday gloom strategy only works if people believe you actually want change, not once you’ve shown them that is your entire strategy.
In other words, you can ask for money saying you can’t pay your rent, but when I see you spending it while out partying and you ask me again… don’t expect me to trust you.
That’s what you’re going with? People like me are the reason Trump got elected?
Not the protest votes? Not the people who sat home? It was me who is responsible. The person who voted Hillary in a deep red state knowing it would amount to virtually nothing but held my nose and did it anyway. I’m the person responsible.
Excuse me when I say it but… get fucked.
Yes… here you are calling people stupid instead of holding your own party accountable. If you actually had any awareness, you’d be telling people how the Democrats have changed since 2016. Or what the Democratic party has done different since 2020 to regain trust. Instead, your ad hominem attacks make you out to be the one lacking intelligence. The ironic thing is, us stupid people actually feel bad for people like you. Like, despite you telling us that you’ve hated us since 2016, we just hope that you leave the cult one day.
Biden can’t win here. Whatever he does, he’s going to alienate a huge voting bloc. The best option could just be for him to choose not to run.
While it’s awful, it’s nevertheless true that he will always do better being seen as Islamophobic rather than as antisemitic. The amount of shit he’d get from all sides if he supported the Palestinians from the start would dwarf the current amount of shit by an order of magnitude.
I mean, this has become more than just islamophobe vs antisemite. What Biden is facing is being rightly called accomplice to genocide, at a time when support for Palestine has already overtaken that for Israel among democrat voters.
Still have a year to go, so it may get worse or better.
Will be interesting to see how it goes, since RFK Jr. is doing double digits, but also has similar stance to Biden.
