• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Good. I happen to know companies that will have to kick out some rather nice machines that happen to be just under spec for Win11. Those machines are still top for running Linux.

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    7 days ago

    Cool, now I can try and remember to get fully migrated to Linux before October next year.

  • BroBot9000@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Have my second pc on running Linux mint for about half a year now and it’s been a pleasure so far.

    I think I’ll be prepared to switch over fully in a year.

    So fucking refuse to switch over to 11

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      7 days ago

      Me too, but im betting windows 10 gets an extension. Microsoft will take too much flack ending support while so many people are still on 10 and too many computers that can’t upgrade are still in use. They’re going for a scare tactic to try and fluff up 11’s numbers a bit before doing it is my guess. 62% of computers are still on 10 right now. They won’t end support.

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      8 days ago

      I’m using Linux mint all day at work, while I have a couple of rarely-used Windows machines at home. I think the swap to Linux on those home machines is going to be a winter project this year.

      It might be more accurate to say the project will be setting up the Linux version of a few key pieces of software. The actual installation of Linux Mint is the easiest part!

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      9 days ago

      I only have one computer that can run 11 because of the TPM module, it upgraded by accident.

      All others will run linux

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        9 days ago

        Pretty telling when the only way you can get your users to “upgrade” is by stealth. I wonder what the % of involuntarily upgraded win11 users is vs people who knowingly and willingly did so.

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          I would’ve upgraded to 11, but either my computer doesn’t support TPM or I just refused to turn it on. So instead I upgraded to Ubuntu. There are probably better distros but I had a limited about of time to fuck around trying them.

          Mint is pretty nice, too. It felt familiar, as a windows user. But I kept installing stuff that broke the updater. So I switched and found it’s me, not the updater, and I just need to do apt update/upgrade and dpkg -i regardless, but anyway now I’m on Ubuntu.

          I still have my full windows install on an SSD somewhere if I had an emergency, but I haven’t had any such emergency in about a year.

    • iorale@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 days ago

      I keep trying but I can’t make Xlink Kai work with Dolphin, nor play using Zerotier for some lan games (tModloader, mostly)… Managed to make my DRG and Gunfire Reborn run, so I got that going for me.

      Until I can make those 2 networks work, I’ll have to stay on Windows.

    • mortimer@lemmy.world
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      9 days ago

      Similar to yourself, I switched to Mint about 9 months ago - initially on dual boot before ditching Windows altogether (the Windows updates kept fucking everything up). For the one piece of software that I missed on Windows 10 (Fugawi Digital Maps) I simply created a Windows 7 VM, that doesn’t connect to the internet, and installed it on there. In fact, it has made me realise just how crap 10 was in comparison to 7. Linux has been a pleasure. Not only has it made computers interesting to me again, but I’ve learned a shitload along the way. It’s nice to have a computer do what I want it to, rather than the other way around.

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      9 days ago

      All of the random BS it requires is a bit of a turn off but the 10ish percent drop in gaming performance is a no go. Linux with proton should outperform the os the games are designed to run on but here we are.

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    8 days ago

    I’ll switch my windows drive to the LTSC IoT version, when this happens. The only reason I have dual boot is for a fallback, if some games make trouble. For example for whatever reason BG3 multiplayer freezes randomly on linux. Single player is fine though. So until I got that sorted out I can fall back to windows. But when even the LTSC support runs out, then that’s it completely for me.

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    8 days ago

    I’m probably one of the last people who use Win 8.1. The only thing I use there is Smart Switch to back up my phone. For everything else, there is Mint. I’ll keep up with that setup until my hardware fails.

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    7 days ago

    Honestly, i predict people and businesses will keep using Win10 years after it’s become unsafe. We’ve all seen the local warehouse still running WIndows 7, i’m thinking that scenario but for millions of users.

    That’s a cypersecurity problem, but what i’m most concerned with is the e-waste problem, because there’s still going to be a lot of users that do replace their PC. There aren’t enough Linux users to buy all the computers that will be rendered obsolete, and there won’t be by then either. I myself am a new Linux user but i’m already covered, i don’t need more computers, not even for cheap.

    I just really hope this doesn’t end with millions of good computers landfilled or parted. The third world already buys a lot of our e-waste, so i hope they’ll get a crapton of relatively good computers for cheap and run either WIn10 or Linux

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      7 days ago

      We’ve all seen the local warehouse still running WIndows 7

      Why would they stop? They don’t need the internet. They gain nothing by using a different version of windows.

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        7 days ago

        Most (hopefully all) computers in industry running outdated OSs are disconnected from the internet for that exact reason.

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      7 days ago

      It will legit be a fantastic era for Linux on the desktop though… imagine how cheap we’ll be able to get perfectly good hardware.

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        6 days ago

        I think so too, but like i said there’s only so many computers that you can find a use for.

        I think. That wasn’t a challenge, don’t prove me wrong

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    7 days ago

    “Switch to Linux” is always the answer but a Nvidia graphics card, Stream Deck, and GoXLR are all things I use every single day, with no official linux support I’m never going to be able to use it as a daily driver. I have plenty of VMs that I run Linux on, but it’s just a non-starter for my day to day gaming rig.

    MS should have done what they said and made W10 “the last version of windows” instead of doing the typical corpo bullshit and coming out with an even worse version.

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      7 days ago

      Not trying to make you do something you don;t want to do, but my Nvidia machine is working seemingly perfectly with bazzite, I’d assume the other fedora immutables with different focuses might work as well.

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      7 days ago

      As someone who switched to Linux, and found reasons not to for literal decades, this has helped me:

      Have a second ssd in your PC that is untarnished by the windows bootloader.

      This way one can easily switch via BIOS / UEFI and no other annoying software.

      Dual booting is also less annoying, if you switch via boot menu. It lets you test drive and configure Linux anytime you’re in the headspace for it and reduces pressure on yourself.

      Install linux on it. My current favorite for your situation would be Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop Spin (what a mouthful). Have another exfat partitioned usb disk ready for file exchange with windows. Again, this makes handling windows easier, has nothing to do with linux.

      Nvidia on fedora works good enough. third party repos also help a lot.

      streamdeck is wonderful hardware, I know a friend who uses it daily with streamdeck_ui

      • same with GoXLR Configuration Utility. Software is there, the only question is does it work for you.

      This is to my knowledge as close to “official” as you can get. Good luck on your journey!

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        That will be my next plan, 2 NVMe boot disks, but that may not be before next year. I’ve been using PopOS, fedora, and Mint in VMs for about a year now just messing around and getting a handle on the GUI side of things since most of my debian containers are cli only.

        I’ll look into GoXLR and Streamdeck plugins again, thank you for that, I looked a while ago and it was a long way from my comfort level, but given the amount of docker/debian I’ve messed with in the last year, that may be attainable now.

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      7 days ago

      Back in my day it was Lynx 2012 / apocalypse / whatever it was called saying that was the last Lynx they’d ever make. To my annoyance, it turns out they were lying. Although I don’t tend to hang out with the sort of people that blast themselves with Lynx so I guess it makes no difference either way

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    Cant wait to erase windows in October 14 2025 I just need better app support for me idc a out adobe Microsoft office and stuff and roblox I have a few options sober or delete roblox thinking of deleting roblox due to the moderation thing

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      7 days ago

      Plasma on Wayland does have HDR support now… But I don’t have a way to test how good it is, and I think it’s both still unfinished and severely lacking support from applications. But hey, things are improving!

      I wouldn’t count on Adobe support though.

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    8 days ago

    So, could users just ignore that and just buy an anti-virus product or use 0patch? If it’s like Widows 8, most apps will still be updated for a few years.

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      8 days ago

      Generally speaking that’s ill-advised, antimalware tools rely on heuristics and active samples.

      You don’t wanna be the first person to get xyz virus. It’s certainly better than nothing though.

      Unless you have an app you can’t live without Linux is the most accessible than it ever has been.

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        8 days ago

        As a heavy user of Playit Live, Excel with macros and Google Drive, I’m stuck in a Windows World for a while yet. The first two could maybe run in Boxes if I send the audio to a USB device.

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      8 days ago

      The most important thing to get updates in the browser tbh. That’s the source of nearly everything bad these days, and the main reason somebody would bother to update their PC.

      I reckon they’ll continue providing updates for those for as long as there’s enough people using it. It’s not like Google are going to willing turn round and go “whelp, no more adverts and spying for these millions of users!”

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    8 days ago

    I’d rather pay for security updates than invite more AI and Microsoft sponsored spyware onto my computer…