cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21333337
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/21333233
Brett Wilkins
Oct 11, 2024
The Gaza Strip is the neo Warsaw Ghetto.
It’s not a genocide. The genocide rhetoric is similar to the extreme right “white replacement theory” rhetoric in that it’s meant to incite violence.
Responsible media sources want no part in inciting violence so won’t publish this kind of thing. And really their job is to report the facts not cast judgement. In a murder case they’ll say the word “alleged” a lot because of this. And genocide is a much bigger accusation, so they won’t be using that word unless a body with the authority to make that judgment does so. And there’s been no update about the concerns the UN had six months ago. Probably because the genocide the ghouls wanted to happen (to make their internet arguments stronger and get more of that sweet monetization money) didn’t actually happen.
And really mainstream media is doing a solid for the pro-Palestinian movement by avoiding having the genocide false accusations discussed. Y’all sound like crazy people by constantly making this unsubstantiated accusation. From talking to people in this site my conclusion is you’re starting with genocide as a fact and desperately trying to find anything that supports this while ignoring anything to the contrary. It’s ghoulish behavior and it’s resulting in extreme gatekeeping which prevents there from being any new allies to your cause. But I guess you feel pure and good by making these false accusations and that matters more to you than people’s lives on the other side of the world.
BULLSHIT. It’s a genocide. Quit trying to sell us on the same tired shit.
- De-Gaza: A Year of Israel’s Genocide and the Collapse of World Order - Euro-Med Monitor Report see Chapter 2 and 3
On 26 January 2024, the ICJ said that it was plausible that Israel had breached the Genocide Convention. As an emergency measure, it ordered Israel ensure that its army refrained from genocidal acts against Palestinians.
The ICJ reported, as part of its decisions in March and May, that the situation in Gaza had deteriorated and that Israel had failed to abide by its order in January.
So, when we look at the actions taken, the dropping of thousands and thousands of bombs in a couple of days, including phosphorus bombs, as we heard, on one of the most densely populated areas around the world, together with these proclamations of intent, this indeed constitutes genocidal killing, which is the first act, according to the convention, of genocide. And Israel, I must say, is also perpetrating act number two and three — that is, causing serious bodily or mental harm, and creating condition designed to bring about the destruction of the group by cutting off water, food, supply of energy, bombing hospitals, ordering the fast evictions of hospitals, which the World Health Organization has declared to be, quote, “a death sentence.” So, we’re seeing the combination of genocidal acts with special intent. This is indeed a textbook case of genocide.
More than 800 scholars of international law and genocide have signed a public statement arguing that the Israeli military may be committing genocidal acts against Palestinians in the Gaza Strip as the total siege and relentless airstrikes continue to inflict devastation on the occupied territory.
An independent United Nations expert warned Monday that “Israel’s genocidal violence risks leaking out of Gaza and into the occupied Palestinian territory as a whole” as Western governments, corporations, and other institutions keep up their support for the Israeli military, which stands accused of grave war crimes in the Gaza Strip and West Bank.
Our documentation encompasses over 500 incitements of violence and genocidal incitement, appearing in the forms of social media posts, television interviews, and official statements from Israeli politicians, army personnel, journalists, and other influential personalities.
You sound pretty crazy. Even Netanyahu knows this is a genocide. He’s just a shit human being though.
It’s not a genocide.
Why not?
Yes, as everyone knows, if you accurately call out genocide when you see it, you actually want there to be genocide. You sick ghouls need to stop noticing genocide so I can go back to concern trolling in peace.
you can’t argue with the left wing nutjobs here.
they will conveniently lump israel as one body and then go on to separate hamas and palestine as if they are not one and the same.
Oct 7th gave israel an excuse to launch an all out against hamas,this is the result. if the palestinians want peace in the region,time to point to israel where these terrorists are hiding.
time to point to israel where these terrorists are hiding
Freudian slip or moment of clarity?
lemme go ask your mom
You said “time to point to isreal where these terrorists are hiding” when said like that it means you are saying Israel are the terrorists. Also, its Israel not israel.
nazi, grammar.
Do you know where your local terrorist cell is hiding? Surely the Mossad can figure all that out without murdering civilians?
Also, pretty ironic of you to lump left wing nut jobs together as one group…
fuck if i care what you think.
blah blah blah
Of course its blah blah blah when someone points out how you are wrong. Classic loser behavior.
your mom is wrong…for not swallowing.
Would it be better if we call it an alleged genocide until the dust settles?
“Alleged” is for when there’s an ongoing legal case. If you shot someone you’d be a suspected shooter until you’re charged with a crime. If you’re legally charged for murder, you’d then be called an alleged murderer. If you’re convicted of murder then you’d be called a murderer.
If you apply the same rules, then the media should only use words that describe what happened (bombing, shooting, shelling etc.) and not use words that indicate it’s a crime until there are legal charges.
It doesn’t matter how much you feel that Kyle Rittenhouse murdered people, the media won’t refer to him that way because he wasn’t convicted. Responsible media will handle a word like genocide with even more care since its an even bigger crime than murder.
Ultimately it will be history that will judge whether it’s a genocide or conversely whether people have been making false accusations of genocide as apart of a propaganda campaign. Nobody serious in any position of responsibility will use the word genocide unless there’s compelling evidence. And so far we’ve only seen the kinds of things that happen in every war occurring. So it’s rightly termed a war no matter how many times one side of the conflict want it called a genocide. This is obvious propaganda, and responsible media source won’t be a part of that.
It’s a genocide you jackass.
I guess ethnic cleansing wouldn’t fit also? Seems more accurate.
Ethnic cleansing was a term made up by the Clinton admin to excuse why they didn’t need to intervene to prevent genocide in Rwanda. Anytime you see “ethnic cleansing”, it’s a pretty easy and accurate replacement if you say “genocide”.
“Responsible media” left the tent a long time ago.
That’s exactly what this is. It is Israel’s final solution after 80+ years of pograms against Palestinians.
countries will have to reckon—media agencies will have to reckon—with their major role in the genocide
“Hey, we maybe got it wrong, moving on we will never talk of this again.”
The reason why the world does not get better is that it is too easy for humans to refuse to learn from their mistakes. If another false dossier about Weapons of Mass Destruction came out about a country that it would be cool to go and blow up, as happened with Bush and Blair and Iraq, I don’t think enough people would learn from the past to put a stop to it. It’s more ‘patriotic’ to just go with the flow.
Usually because one or a few people profit one way or another by helping everyone forget the lessons.
Oh, but they had a pentagon under that one hospital! That’s why Israel bombed it. And then bombed all the other hospitals for good measure. Schools too. Oh, and those UN workers. And journalists. And ambulances. All had a mini pentagon in them.
Didn’t you see the dossier and the video footage published by the news media from that one time we let them film exactly where we pointed them to film, after we had set it all up for them?
