A new report from Americans for Tax Fairness found that America’s richest families accumulated $8.5 trillion in untaxed capital gains in 2022

America’s wealthiest families held an astounding $8.5 trillion in untaxed profits in 2022. According to a report from the nonprofit Americans for Tax Fairness, which analyzed Federal Reserve data, “one in every six dollars (18 percent of the nation’s unrealized gains is held by these roughly 64,000 ultra-wealthy households, who make up less than 0.05 percent of the population.” The report comes as the Supreme Court gears up to decide a case that could preemptively block any efforts to tax the wealth of billionaires.

The data looks at “quiet” income generated by “centi-millionaires,” Americans holding at least $100 million in wealth, and billionaires through unrealized capital gains. Those gains accumulate, untaxed, as assets and investments like stocks, real estate, bonds, and other investments increase in value. If those assets are not sold — or “realized” — they are not taxed, yet America’s wealthiest families can leverage that on-paper value increase to secure favorable loans with low-interest rates in lieu of using taxable income to finance their lifestyle.

“Of the $139 trillion in America’s national wealth, almost three-quarters (73 percent) is held by the richest 10 percent of households, over one-third (35 percent) by the richest 1 percent, and an astounding 11 percent — $15.2 trillion — is held by the handful of fortunate households that make up the billionaire and centi-millionaire class,” the report says. “The wealthiest 1 percent of households hold 44 percent of national unrealized gains ($21.2 trillion), with billionaires and centi-millionaires alone controlling 18 percent ($8.5 trillion).”

  • ChrisLicht@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    This is how you get nobility. Before Reagan, wealth typically dissipated by the third generation. We are heading toward the old European model, where families are rich for a millennium.

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      6 months ago

      Exactly. They may not call themselves nobility but their influence is the same if not more.

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      10 months ago

      Hopefully we can also head for the other old European model of dealing with them that the French popularized.

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    10 months ago

    Fortunately for the billionaire class, Clarence Thomas’ legal opinion is always for sale.

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    10 months ago

    When has the US turned into a regime led by the supreme court? All my life, whenever something was up, you heard what the president did or tried to do or whatever. Nowadays, all headlines about the US are about something the Supreme Court with it’s undemocratically elected judges gets to decide over all lawmaker’s heads.

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      10 months ago

      This has always been the case. 3 co branches of government. The fact that you hadn’t heard it much is probably either a case of you paying more attention, or it getting more attention.

      But yes, republicans have politicized the court, so it’s even more divisive now.

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        10 months ago

        The feeling I get is more that the famous checks and balances ceased to work and the supreme court is the branch getting the most power from this breakdown.

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          10 months ago

          Not really because Congress can remove them from office if they get out of line. While I’ve certainly disagreed with many rulings, I can’t find any that I think are really out of line or some gross abuse of power.

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            10 months ago

            Bush v Gore? It’s my understanding that the SCOTUS decided to take the case on their own without being asked, put a stay on the recount, then said there wasn’t enough time to count because of they stay they put. They also said essentially that because counties in Florida didn’t have a unified system for deciding how voting is done that they went against an equal protections law im forgetting the exact name of, completely ignoring that this is how it’s done all over the country so if it’s the case in Florida that it was incorrect then that means every single state has the same issue.

            Didn’t matter to them, they got to stop the recount just when Bush has the slightest lead.

            I mean then there’s citizens united… Corporations have the same rights as people??

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              10 months ago

              It’s my understanding that the SCOTUS decided to take the case on their own without being asked

              Not accurate, Bush petitioned the courts to block the count, and they stayed the decision by the Florida supreme court. I disagree with the ruling, they should have counted all of the votes, but it was on sound legal ground, even if ultimately disagreeable.

              I mean then there’s citizens united… Corporations have the same rights as people??

              It’s long been interpreted that the COTUS is a restriction on the state not a granting of rights to the individuals. There was a great disagreement over including the BoR at all in the COTUS because some founder were afraid that explicitly listing out some of the rights would open the door to the assumption that non-enumerated rights weren’t actually protected. They couldn’t settle this in time which is why they were included as amendments and not in the original COTUS. The ruling stems from this idea, that the COTUS restricts the statement, it doesn’t grant rights to the individual, so they can’t restrict it when it comes to other private entities as well. Again, something I vehemently disagree with and should be amended, but it’s not some ridiculous overreach, it’s based on sound legal interpretations of the COTUS.

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                10 months ago

                I appreciate the detailed response in spite of all the shitty responses people have been giving you!

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      10 months ago

      Technically, as they were Voted into Office by Senators representing the interests Voters, they are democratically elected via Representative Democracy.

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        I guess if you change the definition of “democratically elected,” then sure. Supreme Court Justice is an appointed position. It’s literally the entire point of the distinction between the two (elected vs. appointed).

        If you were to consider anyone appointed by an elected official as being “democratically elected,” then that would mean that nobody is appointed. It would become a distinction without a difference.

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          10 months ago

          So… are they appointed by the President without anyone having any say or is there a vote? If there is a vote by an elected body like the senate or congress, then they are democratically chosen.

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            Congress doesn’t pick or vote from a set of candidates… Essentially they are just confirming appointments, just like the appointed cabinet members and most other appointed positions.

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            Pretty creative, I guess. Unfortunately for you, words have meanings, and you are objectively wrong about what you believe those meanings to be. The term “political appointment” is a term that is already defined in US politics, and it refers to government positions that are obtained by appointment (usually, if not always, by someone who WAS elected). Period. Those people are not elected officials no matter what weird reasoning you might come up with. That is the entire point of the distinction between the two terms.

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      10 months ago

      A friend of mine used to call them ‘our mullahs’. I used to laugh him off. Now, I’m not so sure.

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    10 months ago

    And once enough “friends” have stepped up to show their “friendship” to the iSCotUS, they’ll rule as the “friends” desire.

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    10 months ago

    Societies should not allow billionaires as long as there are people who can’t even get food on the table. It’s just morally and ethically wrong. Some would even say unchristian.

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      10 months ago

      My cyberpunk solution is that once you cross the billion dollar net worth threshold, it becomes legal for a team of any size or an individual to register with the billionaire hunting office.

      If a registered person or group is successful in killing the billionaire, all of their assets (including any managed by a trust on their behalf) are seized, liquidated, and distributed to the group.

      Anyone paid to protect them, anyone affiliated with an organization paid to protect them, or anyone (regardless of affiliation or payment status) within a certain physical proximity to the billionaire is fair game.

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      10 months ago

      As much as I understand Jesus was a socialist, even he couldn’t write rules to live by that can’t be bent, manipulated, and plain broken. Morals and ethics are a feeble reed to lean upon.

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    10 months ago

    $8.5 trillion in untaxed profits in 2022.

    through unrealized capital gains.

    Just to be clear, we’re talking about wealth taxes, not income taxes. Yes, the wealthy have all kinds of avoiding paying fair income taxes. But, this is a different issue, this is a wealth tax.

    It’s important to realize, that most of the US already has a form of wealth tax: property taxes. The thing is, property taxes are a regressive form of wealth tax. Sure, the poorest people pay no property-wealth tax, because they’re not wealthy enough to own taxable property. This time they do catch a slight break. Anybody who is middle-class and lucky enough to own a home pay the highest percentage of their total wealth as property-wealth taxes, because virtually all their wealth is tied up in that property. The wealthy pay almost no property-wealth taxes relative to their total wealth because only a tiny amount of their wealth is tied up in property.

    If you graph it out, at the bottom the effective wealth tax is zero, then it jumps to a much higher number, then it declines more and more as you get richer and richer.

    I say screw property taxes and replace them with a proper progressive wealth tax. Along with that, an inheritance tax with teeth and proper enforcement. The grandkids of billionaires should be starting on an equal footing with everyone else.

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    10 months ago

    It’s a good thing ZERO Justices have taken luxurious trips and gifts paid for by these same exact billionaires that could inject literally TRILLIONS into our communities!

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    We need to tax them on a different basis once they achieve far more than is reasonable for themselves and their family.

    Instead of taxing them for the value of liquidity moved into or out of their care; we should tax them based on how much their value grows each year as well as assessing any normal “wage tax” as needed.

    So if you grow in net worth value by 200%, so too do your taxes grow by a certain percentage. This tax is then paid directly each year. Your losses in worth do not count, and do not decrease your taxes until several years later. This should prevent anyone from tax dodging this, as even if you only held the money for long enough to activate this tax, you still held it.

    This tax also applies to companies holding, far in excess, more money than they reasonably need to operate normally. No business shenanigans should save one from being taxed for accumulating more wealth than reasonable.

    While most people in the world need not fear tripping this tax, anyone who is within the top 1% should be wary of it.

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      This has complications for people who own assets they can’t sell in part, especially somebody inheriting a family property, etc. But it’s solvable, because the main loophole these billionaires use is to take loans with the assets as collateral, generating cash flow which cost them less than taxes (interest rate is below taxes), so then we can tax the use of collateral in loans instead as a complement to capital gains tax on sale.

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    10 months ago

    “But what if I become rich… I should vote against my best interests just in case.”

    In terms of unrealised gains, that’s kind of a tricky one. They certainly do benefit massively from unrealised gains though, like anyone would on paper.

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      Yeah and the worse thing is that if they try and tax that, the retail investors like you and me are the ones getting fucked while these people get richer because of more profitable arbitrage oppurtunities.

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      Do these nimcompoops realize that the existing wealthy elite, few in their number, got that way by exploiting social safetynets and taxpayer funded infrastructure for their gains?

      So cleary, if we want to be able to generate more wealth and more millionaires/billionaires, better social programs and infrastructure will get them there. Imagine how much easier it’ll be to become wealthy if you don’t have to give employees insurance, or tuition reimbursement? Or if there’s an amazing system of roads, rails, and ports to move your goods to consumers? God, you could become a successful businessman and still have a conscious. Best of both worlds.

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    10 months ago

    These are the people who give members of the court thousand dollar/day vacations and expect you to believe that it’s just coincidence and good jurisprudence that the court rules in their favor every time.

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    The solution here isn’t to tax unsold goods, it’s to tax the banks on all the income they’re getting from these loans.

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      The solution here isn’t to tax unsold goods

      Why not? People are taxed for unrealized gains on a house. Why should stocks be any different?

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        One argument could be that anything that incentivizes people to sell their stocks isn’t a good thing

        The more people buying and selling at any given time, the more volatile the price could become, it’s so easy to buy and sell stocks that we already have to have high frequency trading disincentives by having a really high capital gains tax on stocks that were held for a short period of time

        Property is a lot less volatile, and there’s already a rather large natural incentive to hold on to it for long periods of time (moving is a pain), and taxing unrealized gains on it (essentially, paying estimated taxes on a theoretical future sale) is unlikely to really motivate anyone to sell their house

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          This is just pearl clutching for billionaires and an economy that doesn’t work for the majority of U.S. citizens.

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    We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror. (Karl Marx)