I did retirement home training and used to think it was a sweet job. Then I got in the business and underestimated how demoralizing it was as they give you the easy elders in training while the others make you, or at least me, really think of the fact the job just amounts to an unkarmic freebie.
Politicians. Don’t get me wrong, we do need them, but I strongly oppose the existance of people who never did anything else.
I believe we’d be better off with a new set of randomly chosen citizen every so often. Kinda like jury duty.
Its called Sortition and I agree
The process of choosing government officials at random is called sortition. It’s certainly not the worst method.
Oh hell no. You know how braindead most people are at something relatively simple like driving a car, managing finances, or logical decision making? And then you want to roll the dice and let potentially ‘the average’ citizen to partake in government? This also means you have to be fine with the dumbest motherfucker you have ever come across, making policy decisions.
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell naw. Fuck, we have some dense pieces of shit in govt/politics here in the states, but I know that we can do way, way, way fucking worse. Hell. No.
Well maybe braindead is still better than professional selfish corrupt assholes bending the system towards them across many decades.
The random dumb people would still be bribed.
But at least wouldn’t have decades to build up their networks… But those may grow up regardless… Eh, no easy solutions.
We had one guy (Ricky Muir) in Aus who kind of got in accidentally, due to a weird quirk of the voting system that has since been fixed. He was an uneducated bogan, who was mostly just interested in hotted up cars. But he actually took the position seriously and reached out to experts for advice on topics he didn’t know much about. I didn’t agree with his take on a few things (from memory, this was a decade or so ago, I’m an anti-car lefty), but he honestly seemed like he was doing a pretty good job. Way better than 90% of the rest of the more career politicians.
Most people aren’t that dumb, given the resources…
If you cannot trust in a randomly selected group of people making good decisions, can you trust in any kind of democracy? I, for one, prefer ‘dumb’ people being directly involved instead of having a lying contest every so often to see which actively evil person can get the most ‘dumb’ people behind him.
“influencers” should not exist in their form today. If you are to peddle a brand, you get to be responsible (as in legally liable) for the claims made
my feeling is, is if you are going to be selling a product and you use certain words or phrases like “scientifically proven” or “research shows…” that you need to reference your claim.
That’s not enough… not just because nobody would read it but because there is a LONG tradition of marketing funded junk science so they could very easily come up with some shitty paper that backs whatever they are saying.
The tobacco industry was famous for this and for years they produced studies that showed smoking was good for you
The tobacco industry still actively does this. For example, they published papers promoting vaping as a public health initiative–tobacco cessation or harm reduction, they called it. One of the doctors, for example, was a sex therapist. Another got his medical degree in the Virgin Islands. All published under the guise of a legitimate “think-tank” with the basic premise of, “how do we address the public health impact of smoking?”
See? Literally, this behaviour is why we can’t have nice things
Papparazi. Fucking leeches
Cops, prison guards, landlords.
Some food jobs make me think we get carried away with what food is supposed to entail.
Elaborate please?
We could go our entire lives without the existence of a large majority of things which are taken for granted in the culinary sphere and still get the same appreciation out of food.
“Influencers”, advertisers, and just about every Wall Street job.
Marketing. Anything having to do with marketing.
I’m a big fan of Bill Hicks’ philosophy in regards to those people.
Bad marketing makes me want to ship my pants.
Going after that anger dollar, I see. Big market.
Not aware of Bill Hicks’ take, but marketing effectively amounts to manipulating people into buying things that they otherwise would not.
There’s only 3 kinds of advertising that work on me.
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“My business supports [thing I like] financially!” Ok, that’s fair. You donate to them, I purchase from you over competitors.
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“Hello, I run [business]. I make sure to patronize [other business] to support [business] because [other business] does quality work. Check them out!” For some reason, this resonates with me. It sounds way more honest.
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“Here is a picture of tasty food”. FOOOOOOOD 🤤
I got a postcard in the mail for Granta, a literary journal. On one side it said “Just subscribe, you know you want to.” On the other side it said “We promise, no poetry. Ever!”
(sigh) Subscribed.
Discovered one of my favorite books and authors that way:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/118585.Into_the_Heart_of_Borneo
Rebuttal/fact check:
- they donate 0.0015% of every $10+ purchase you make, on a Shursday, when it’s raining meatballs; additional terms and conditions apply
- [other company]: “we’ve never heard of them in our lives, but alright I guess?”
- “here is the food we advertise! and here is the garbage we slap together next to the dumpster out back that we actually serve at our fine establishments!”
Don’t trust anyone who needs to advertise. If they were actually good products/services, they wouldn’t need to advertise, as word of mouth and reputation does that for you. You don’t see any Rolls-Royce ads on primetime television…
If you find yourself interested because of advertising, always, always be skeptical of all claims. Don’t just believe, but research, verify.
Jesus Christ dude, get some therapy. Not everything is bullshit all the time.
Have you been to the USA?
If they were actually good products/services, they wouldn’t need to advertise
How do they get their first customers without advertising?
Friends and family, others who know you and your skills, etc
There is exactly one ad that worked on me. It was a poster for a bottle of Oasis that said “you’re thirsty, we have quotas, let’s help each other out.”
The only advertising I want is a list of specs for the product and maybe a video demonstration of it’s capabilities (not a highly edited misleading video like most advertising we see today).
I wouldn’t class that as advertising… That’s just product info, so you know what you’re buying.
Yea. That’s what advertising should be. What it is is worthless nonsense which is why everyone blocks as much of it as they possibly can.
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You’re just going for that anti-marketing dollar
Anti-advertising advertising. Genius.
Marketing itself can be good, sadly the whole industry has gone off so far into the dark path that it’s irredeemable at this point.
Disagree with the first part. Agree with the second.
When I’m dictator they’ll be among the first up against the wall.
Fortunately for them, my lack of ambition and crippling video game addiction ensure I’ll never be dictator over anything more than my two cats.
Middle-men of any kind. Facilitators, landlords, middle-management positions… They’re all worthless and contribute nothing to society but bullshit.
People think this without a hint of irony, and yet have never worked in a place without management. Good management improves productivity and efficiency, while also shielding workers from executives. Bad/no management almost always leads to chaos.
It’s like the whole idea of not having leaders; it’s a great theory, but it assumes that everyone is capable of working together perfectly towards the same goal, when the reality is that not everyone has the same goal.
Middlemen, etc., are trading in knowledge. They know who can do what, and decrease duplication of effort.
Being a middle manager (and therefore biased), I view my role as the person who serves the team by:
- being a firewall from upper management
- giving the team the things they need to do their jobs
- removing the things in their way
This allows them to do their jobs as best they can. Could they get by without me? Probably. But they would have a worse time and not be able to work as effectively.
Honestly, I feel like many problems with the modern workplace stem from executives’ insulation from the workforce.
Flippers. Any kind of flippers
Paparazzi, insurance companies (and I work in insurance), pay day loan companies/positions, and whoever cooks the chicken at cane’s cause that shit be dry as hell.
Their sauce too, omfg I like chicken but it’s like dipping the thing in liquid shit. How the fuck do they think this is the ideal sauce? Did they hire yes-men with no functional taste buds to decide on their sauce? When they were popping up around me a few years ago, family and friends tried them a couple times each. Everyone thought that, while the chicken is fine, the sauce kills it. Nobody I know has been back in… 7 years?
The best part is people fucking love that lane ass sauce too
Cane’s mystified me. They will have lines around the block in my area and I just don’t get it.
Influencers. And more broadly, almost anything to do with marketing.
Anyone who is trying to sell me something
Boy, you don’t know what you’re missin’!
If only it were possible to maintain this state indefinitely
Are there still places that legally mandate car refueling operators? That seemed like a job that literally only existed to give some people a job.
Looking at you NJ, you ridiculous grift if a state.
Mexico, Peru, and New Jersey, USA are 3 places I know still do this.
Oregon does, or did if they stopped.
If you’ve never seen the disaster some morons have caused at pumps…
I’ve read this response online and have seen online videos, but never met anyone who actually saw any such disaster. I’m not convinced this is at all common
that seemed like a job that literally only existed to give some people a job
That is exactly what it’s for, and it prevents a lot of worse problems just by existing. It significantly reduces crime rates by allowing people who otherwise couldn’t earn income, and provides a way for ex-cons to successfully reintegrate into society and not relapse, as well as providing low/no skill labor. It gives some a sense of purpose - retirees who physically can’t do any other work for example and need something to do.
It is literally there to give people jobs and its a good thing.
People downvoting you are very self-centered, they don’t understand the importance of a job for lots of people. Until we have UBI, jobs like these will always be necessary.
This is why I’m in favor of mandating everyone use horse-drawn carriages. Can’t let those carmen be out of work, spreading hooliganism
That money would be better spent sending them to school to learn something useful.
You missed the low/no skill part, didn’t you? There is a need for those.
Or are you the kind of scum that believes we all need to “earn” a living. As if every being isn’t entitled to exist unless in servitude to the economy. Fuck right off.
There are necessary jobs that are low skill.
Are there enough to satisfy your ghoulish need to make sure everyone is working?
The rest of the world proves there’s no need for people to pump your gas for you. Just about anyone can do that themselves. My point was that if this is the only way these people can be employed then we should instead take the money would they’d be paid for this and pay them to go to school instead so they can acquire the skills the need to get other jobs, whatever those jobs may be. Having them stand by a pump to put gas in people’s cars is just a waste of everyone’s time and resources. If this is somehow the only job they are capable of doing even with training available then just pay them to stay home. If there aren’t enough low skill jobs to go around this is a better solution then making up busy work for people to do.
… So you send them to school to learn a skill?
Or to mop the floor. There’s a low skill job that is actually necessary
Let’s whip out the spoons and replace our excavators!
If you want convicts to have jobs, fix how society views them so that they’re not pariahs.
Right, this is much more important. We don’t need to require unnecessary jobs for ex-cons to find work, we need to do a better job of reintegrating them into society after they’ve done 5heir time
Yes. And it’s really dumb.
Not just in the states either. They do it in Mexico and some of the operators use their job to rip off tourists. You have to make sure they reset the meter before they start pumping your gas.
There are undoubtedly people beginning to say the same thing about supermarket checkout attendants now. That doesn’t seem like a good thing to me.
Telemarketer.
“the job just amounts to an unkarmic freebie.”
sorry, something about this phrase is not clicking in my mind, what do you mean?
Influencers. Just ad extensions.
