Donald Trump’s running mate JD Vance has dug in on his claim Haitians in an Ohio community are abducting and eating pets, even as the state’s GOP governor and other officials insist there is no evidence of such behavior.

But the salacious claim was easily debunked.

“The Vance campaign provided the Wall Street Journal with a police report to prove their claims about cat-eating Haitians in Springfield. The WSJ spoke to the woman who filed it, who said she later found her cat alive and well in her basement. She also apologized to her Haitian neighbors.” Justin Baragona posted to X with a link to a story in The Wall Street Journal.


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    And here we are, over a week after the debate. They’re still harping on Haitian immigrants in 1 town, while Harris is blazing up the campaign trail, yet polls are still concerningly close.

    This is how scary this election is becoming

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      As I recall, in terms of the electoral college, neither Biden nor Harris have, at any point, been projected to beat Trump. It’s not “becoming” scary, it’s been scary for quite some time.

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        There’s no one single model doing projections.

        Five Thirty Eight’s, which is one prominent one, has favored Harris somewhat for a while.

        https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/

        Harris wins 64 times out of 100

        in our simulations of the 2024 presidential election.

        Trump wins 36 times out of 100.

        There is a less than 1-in-100 chance of no Electoral College winner.

        Nate Silver – who started Five Thirty Eight and is now off doing his own thing and runs a fork of the model that Five Thirty Eight used to run – had them, last I looked, had Harris and Trump at about about even chances.

        Both Silver’s model and Five Thirty Eight’s model agreed that the debate improved Harris’s chances.

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          Important to note that Nate Silver works for Peter Theil, who has donated heavily to Trump pacs, and is responsible for giving us JD Vance.

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                Interesting.

                Tl;Dr: Nate Silver is an “advisor” to Polymarket, a gambling platform based on real world events. Peter Thiel is an investor for Polymarket.

                It seems like a stretch to say that “Nate Silver works for Thiel,” but it’s pretty sad to see Nate Silver working for a likely illegal crypto scam.

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                  It seems like a stretch to say that “Nate Silver works for Thiel.”

                  Nate Silver is a paid advisor to a company that Peter Thiel runs, it’s not a stretch at all, wake up.

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            You should go through crunchbase. Anyone in tech has worked at a place with evil investors. They just care whether you hit your numbers after finding product market fit. I’m a conspiracy theorist. This is not it.

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          Five-thirty-eight is a joke. Who did Five-thirty-eight project to win in 2016? Yeah.
          Who did professor Allan Lichtman predict to win in 2016? The winner! He uses a strange science technique that have retrospectively lined up with presidential winners since 1860. He has an impressive tract record of ten successful predictions - note he predicted Gore in 2000 but there is very persuasive evidence that Gore actually did win had the vote counts been honestly counted. Hence the Brooks Brothers riot that threw the election to the Supreme Court.
          Republicans are now positioning for that to happen again in 2024.

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            This is the ignorant “I don’t understand statistics” take. If Nate Silver had given Clinton a 100% chance to win, then maybe you’d have some sort of point. But, in fact, the 538 projection gave Trump a much higher chance than most of the major election models, to the point that I remember Nate having to defend himself against angry people on Twitter over and over. He wrote an article ahead of the election pointing out that if an outcome has a 30% chance of happening, not only is it possible, but in fact you expect it to happen 3 in 10 times. I was very nervous on Election Day 2016 specifically because I had been closely following 538 projections.

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          Just a clarification, Silver doesn’t run a fork of the old 538 model. He took the model with him. 538 developed their own after he left.

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      Also a great example of how fact checking fascists is completely ineffective. Platforming a fascist via a debate does nothing other than legitimize their viewpoints.

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      I can’t believe how fucking racist this country is. 20 years ago if a candidate did this, they’d be given the kiss of death by the media and made to drop out.

      Hell Howard Dean lost because he screamed funny. This is abhorrent.

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        Hell Howard Dean lost because he screamed funny.

        Dean was already losing. The scream perhaps was the final nail in the coffin.