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    it’s also important to keep in mind that the cybersecurity field has adbanced tremendously, with cloidfare, EDRs, and in general it is now way harder to do anything anonymously without getting caught, quickly. This also males the field of hacking way more difficult to get in, which combined with reduced attention span of younger generations probably means there’s not that many bored teens willing to put the time in, and as an adult you have way much more to loose, so for hose who had the skills it would be a lot greater risk.

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    I think their direction has gone astray mixed with losing general interest mixed with aging mixed with getting caught. I think Anonymous now has just turned into a parody of itself thanks for 4chan (yeah I know it was born there) who turned it into a symbol of just shitposting trolling than doing the right things.

    They used to have been prominent during the days when SOPA and PIPA had been brought up. Since then, activity has dwindled.

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    all of the people who were part of Anonymous who were worth a damn at hacking back in the day work for the state department now. The movement could very likely have been a psyop, given how many high-level hackers from that era there are on government payroll.

    I stand in solidarity with the gay furry hackers.

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    A lot of the actual, serious ones that knew what they were doing got caught. Some went to lulsec to be jerks with no agenda and were caught by the Feds. All that was left were script kiddies that downloaded the Low Orbit Ion Cannon and used scripts they find online. Then they left or were overtaken by alt right idiots.

    The original Anonymous are in their 30s and 40s by now. Everyone ages out.

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        IIRC it spammed websites with traffic, didn’t conceal your IP at all, and some people got arrested for using it to make some websites go down for a very brief period. Basically a way to use people who didn’t know what they were doing as cannon fodder

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          Yep, that’s exactly what it did. Maybe there was a way to do it, say if you had a VPN, but people picked up pretty quick to ban a single IP.

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            lol your VPN company is going to kick you the instant you turn on LOIC through them. Your packets wont even get to the target site because you are basically attacking your own VPN.

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      I think the serious ones that didn’t get caught are now working in red team penetration testing, which is an industry that’s been growing exponentially since the years Anonymous did a lot of their big stuff

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      90s script kiddie here - a bunch of the shit you can do as a minor with low/no consequences becomes SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS as an adult with assets. It’s just not worth the risk to keep dicking around with things that might land you in prison or cost you everything you have.

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      Where did they get the name LOIC from in the first place?

      The only place I am aware of, that uses this name, was the Unreal Tournament 2004.

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    They fizzled out, members probably moved on to various other groups and projects, while the rest simply went on with their lives. A danger of being decentralized is losing all of your momentum.

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    They (I use that term to mean the average 4channer) were co-opted by alt right propaganda.

    Most neckbeard, incel, Andrew Tate followers are what Anon originally was. We just lied to ourselves that it wasn’t really racist and that we were fighting a good fight.

    Now, its a bunch if sad lonely people that found acceptance in intolerance and hatred.

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    Hacking got harder, and the enforced penalties for getting caught became a lot more severe (in the west at least). This meant that most hackers aren’t doing it for luls but for serious business.

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    Angry and nihilistic teenagers used to have tech skills and laptops. Now they have iPads and TikTok.

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        As a angry, nihilistic teenager: very fucking true. I am literally the only techy guy in my posh bullshit private international school (in Europe so affordable). The only other dude who uses Linux (I’m using that as a bare minimum for “techy”) isn’t into programming or reverse engineering shit even remotely. I’m all alone (apart from all my non-technical friends). I suppose that’s where the nihilism comes from…

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        We’ve drastically simplified and made tech accessible to everyone with a smartphone, you no longer need computer skills to get on the internet to shop or participate in social activities. Kids use apps’ platforms for the things we had to build and host ourselves 20y ago.

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            I’ve recently switched to Linux (I use arch btw) and it feels like I’m living the early days of the ever expanding internet again.

            Probably helps that I had to join IRC again for support, instead of Discord.

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        I actually teach teenagers programming and 3D modelling. The past 5 years has been the first decline in tech literacy I’ve ever experienced between generations. My personal theory is that only the gamers actually have computers at home now. Everyone else only use their smartphones, and that only gives a negligible increase in tech literacy compared to using a computer.

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          Yes, computers in their various forms are now so user friendly (and often locked down, because fuck you) that you don’t learn much using them. The golden age for learning tech on the fly seems to have been 1990-2010 or so, because computers were both accessible and still had exposed inner logic.

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            I think the dawning of the Chromebooks was really a huge sign. Sure you could install Linux on some of the early models. But then Google just caught on to this and decided to take even that away. So now you had all of these Chromebooks that can only ever run ChromeOS and whatever Google approved that could run on them. You just can’t do jackshit with them because they were also online-only.

            And those were pushed onto everyone, particularly schools.

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          Yeah but this also has to deal with how many pc gamers there are per generation. So what you’re saying is gen z and alpha has less pc gsmers.

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            In my experience it has more to do with how much less frequently issues happen and/or how often you need to go manually move files/folders around. Just not nearly as much need imo.

            Similar situation with mobile devices, I remember rooting/roming/jailbreaking being much more common in the past.

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              Yeah devices are really easy so they just work out of the box. Unless you seek out challenges and issues, you’ll probably be computer illiterate.

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    Shutting down porn sites? Is that a thing they wanted to achieve? Like free video sites like PH or production companies like Brazzers?

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    A meme that comes quickly goes quickly.

    It’s not an actual organised group, if you didn’t know. Anyone can hack something and then say “Done by Anonymous”.