Surprised pikachu face
Face is looking increasingly compromised and distorted every photo.
… They weren’t before?
Yeah, they weren’t as synergized. Now they’re coordinating with key stakeholders to maximize the efficiency of their aggressive roadmap. Or something, I kinda suck at business jargon.
… To the surprise of <checks notes> absolutely nobody
Actually I have a question and I admit knowing nothing of the legal framework here but…
Isn’t it absolutely ridiculous that a not-for-profit entity can exists solely for the purpose of developing a closed-source piece of software, demand to train it for free off copyrighted material, just to switch to a for-profit entity??
Sound 100% like tax avoidance. Like me registering a charity so I can throw a mega concert/party privately, secure preferencial treatment on supplies, get discounts on artists or even free performance and then switch to for profit as I start selling tickets
Originally all their work was supposed to be published and shared with the world, hence the “open” in OpenAI. However somewhere along the way they made a for-profit break off of the original company and started pulling everything in that direction.
Just want to point out that it absolutely is possible to train an AI that will keep track of its sources for inspiration and can attribute those when it makes a response.
Meaning creators could be compensated for their parts of AI generated stuff, if anyone wanted to.
Other than citing the entire training data set, how would this be possible?
The entire training set isn’t used in each permutation. Your keywords are building the samples based on metadata tags tied back to the original images.
If you ask for “Iron Man in a cowboy hat”, the toolset will reach for some catalog of Iron Man images and some catalog of cowboy hat images and some catalog of person-in-cowboy-hat images, when looking for a basis of comparison as it renders the image.
These would be the images attributed to the output.
Do you have a source for this? This sounds like fine-tuning a model, which doesn’t prevent data from the original training set from influencing the output. The method you described would only work if the AI is trained from scratch on only images of iron man and cowboy hats. And I don’t think that’s how any of these models work.
Doesn’t Phind do this already? I haven’t used it much but I remember it showing its sources for answers of code-related stuff
I use Phind solving computer problems. It does cite the sources it uses. At least for distro and general Linux issues. So far, it’s been a very good resource when I’ve needed it.
OpenAI: It’s not fair to charge us to use copywriten works.
Also OpenAI: Also you have to pay us for using them.
copyrighted*
Wild for a company that’s never made a profit
These companies do not make profit in paper but have already made millions for others.
It’s all smoke and mirrors
Oh it’s made plenty for Nvidia.
How is this going to work while OpenAI currently burns through an absolute ocean of cash to keep improving its services? Alongside this, a good software engineer or applied scientist can make close to $1m a year. While I do think professionals should earn what their value is to an employer, OpenAI still loses a ton of money.
As someone that works in AI, I think most of us know it’s full of people trying to make a quick buck while investors will stupidly throw money at it. OpenAI is ultimately the figurehead of this market though, because at least the big companies can prop their AI offerings with the money they make from shopping, cloud, ads, etc. The second OpenAI looks weak and needs money, the vultures will slice off a piece and we’ll see the AI market reduce to a wimper - just enough for tech to focus on the next grift.
About the only AI company currently alive that I’m sure will survive is CivitAI. Huggingface probably, too. Both are, in the end, in the datacenter business. Huggingface has exposure to VC BS in their client base, they might be in trouble if a significant number suddenly go belly-up but if they have any sense they’ll simply not overextend. And, well, they, too, can switch to cat pictures.
Yeah some of my team members use hf and it really does represent a convenience (basically a GitHub for models), but I’m sure to be clear we can’t rely on them alone. I don’t trust any company to exist or not be bought out and enshittified in 3 years.
Surely they will be sued into oblivion if they tried right? Them being non profit was the main pillar holding up their defense for scraping the web into datasets.
Probably has to be renamed to “ClosedAI” then.
I think their name goes against some consumer laws here in Europe.
Better call themselves ClosedAI
Step 1. Make an AI that hoovers up content.
Step 2. When owners of content complain about privacy violations and copyright infringement, allay their fears. This AI is for the Good of Humanity.
Step 3. ???
Step 4. Profit.
Yet another example of doing crime at a big enough scale that you get rewarded for it. That’s what this country was built on.
The article could be from 2022 and I’d be as unsurprised as I am now.
Hey, remember when you guys lined up to suck his dick when the board tried to keep OpenAI working for the good of humanity instead of the oligarchy?
I’m always in line for a good dick sucking
Not to knock dick sucking as a whole, but you need some standards.
I don’t remember this at all.
AI has looked like a scam since the Metaverse days when Facebook realized it couldn’t push those shitty headsets on people and decided to pivot.
I hate being right
Why do people keep being fooled by rich assholes
People have grown up reading comic books and watching movies about generous billionaire superhero saviors. They want to believe that exists because it’s what they’ve been taught justice looks like.
They do exist they just prefer to be anonymous in their altruism so nobody hears about them.
How convenient that a counterexample can’t be named
Actually, this is part of Jewish society. Essentially, one is not supposed to do it for glory. I suspect that part of that is to avoid getting letters pleading for more money from those who they have helped or who knows that they helped someone. A lot of charities share/sell donor lists.
Surprising, since Lex Luthor was often portrayed as a wealthy billionaire.
I feel like Luthor was a better counterexample for this before the model for his billionaire redesign was elected President of the USA.
Even so, Luthor hasn’t had quite the same volume of appearances as Iron Man, Batman, Captain America and the other rich superhero tropes.
And yet the problem was never that he was a billionaire, and Lexcorp was never portrayed as anything but an industrial powerhouse whose existence was ultimately good.
Lexcorp was never portrayed as anything but an industrial powerhouse whose existence was ultimately good.
The largest international arms dealing firm that did Captain Planet Villain tier pollution, corruption, and financial scams was “ultimately good”?
Didn’t Lexcorp literally clone an army of Doomsdays?
Obviously it’s going to be the “villain” as Lex’s plaything but it’s also on that “job creator” cope.
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/LexCorp
Employs literally 2/3 of Metropolis’s population lol. Lex even handed it over Superman at one point and made him the CEO because he was on a “Earth needs Superman” arc while obviously CEOs are the real heroes and such, and what are you going to do, Superman? Unemploy a supermajority of Metropolis? It NEEDS Lexcorp, etc etc.
“How will we get by without all our financialized monopolies?!”
Idk, bro. Just keep doing what you’re doing, minus the extraordinary rents to your bloated bourgeois landlords, maybe?
Yeah, that was a strange moment. Those in the company being for Altman, I can understand. They expected big returns of investment from keeping him around. But the outsiders on the internet cheering him on? Felt like Elon Musk in the beginning again. And yes I also fell for his engineer persona in the beginning. But I learned from that.
What was so obvious in that instance was the board members trying to push him out were calling out the lack of openness OpenAI was trending towards. They were literally calling him out for not upholding the vision of why the company was founded.
All the engineers clearly saw their payday slipping away and revolted for that reason. Can’t say I blame them, but it was a scenario where the board was actually doing the right thing and everyone turned on them for profit.
Everyone has a first. Musk outed himself as a retard long before Altman, we could be talking about entirely different groups of people here.
Musk the Fuck doesn’t even have an engineering degree and was never accepted into any PhD program. Lying piece of shit copies some code out of an early 80’s magazine and thinks he is a programmer and got his degree after a donation from daddy.
I repeatedly see loser here, and other places online, defend his dipshit ass. People keep falling for rich tech bro bullshit and still do.
I guess that’s just the reality of living in a world where money is equated with success and success is equated with talent.
As Ed said, Sam Altman has been a plague.
The fact that Silicon Valley interests effortlessly shrugged off the non-profit board’s attempt to hit the kill switch last year, and now are preparing to take the company commercial despite the deliberate design otherwise, becomes much more interesting when you consider the theory that corporations are a form of artificial superintelligence.
If the AI idealists can’t stand up to basic forces of capitalism, how do they expect to control an actually dangerous AGI?
I kinda liked the text you linked. Here’s a quote.
There are also structural changes that can be made to corporations to realign their values system with human welfare. Corporate charters can be amended to optimize for a triple bottom line of social, environmental, and financial outcomes (the so-called “triple Ps” of people, planet, and profit.)
This reminds me of what we are trying to do where I live. The hard thing is this requires a lot of work and it doesn’t just go against the corporate agenda; it goes against the normal lifestyle most everyone around us lives. It has made me want to quit sometimes.
But then again, true life is in true living among real people and real things, not in daydreaming of better days.
You give them far too much credit to assume this specific company will ever achieve anything even close to AGI.
We don’t know what they aren’t showing us. GPT was only one strand of research
If they had something better, don’t you think they’d be putting it out front and center? This is akin to all those conspiracy theorists claiming they have proof to back their claims but they just can’t show it to you right now but it’s definitely coming at some indeterminate time in the future.
If the AI idealists can’t stand up to basic forces of capitalism, how do they expect to control an actually dangerous AGI?
My guess is they don’t expect to. I guess that that is one of the reasons they seem to not care about out of control climate change; burn it all down before it all literally burns down.
Yeah, the people leading the “AGI will save us” are the same as super church pastors.
They don’t believe it, they just want their bank account limitless before they go into oblivion.
